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can we at least put it to some sort of community wide vote? I have arguments for why it would be a good idea and i am sure you can make a good piece about the benefits vis a vis supplementation versus replacing effect of the wiki. It would be the democratic process in action.--FossilLord 05:00, December 13, 2013 (UTC) |
can we at least put it to some sort of community wide vote? I have arguments for why it would be a good idea and i am sure you can make a good piece about the benefits vis a vis supplementation versus replacing effect of the wiki. It would be the democratic process in action.--FossilLord 05:00, December 13, 2013 (UTC) |
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:::Have to agree with both Sulfur and Archduk. Things are not decided by "community vote" or democratic processes, but by consensus, as on Wikipedia.I don't think you understand the legal issues here. Just because you can't find a wiki that was sued doesn't mean we wouldn't be(unless you are an attorney and know better than we do), and Paramount/CBS are stricter in protecting Star Trek than others might be in protecting theirs. That is also only part of the reason we don't have transcripts; that is simply not what we are about. The internet is big enough that we don't have to be everything for everyone. [[User:31dot|31dot]] ([[User talk:31dot|talk]]) 10:07, December 13, 2013 (UTC) |
:::Have to agree with both Sulfur and Archduk. Things are not decided by "community vote" or democratic processes, but by consensus, as on Wikipedia.I don't think you understand the legal issues here. Just because you can't find a wiki that was sued doesn't mean we wouldn't be(unless you are an attorney and know better than we do), and Paramount/CBS are stricter in protecting Star Trek than others might be in protecting theirs. That is also only part of the reason we don't have transcripts; that is simply not what we are about. The internet is big enough that we don't have to be everything for everyone. [[User:31dot|31dot]] ([[User talk:31dot|talk]]) 10:07, December 13, 2013 (UTC) |
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| − | + | I will agree with your view point on the democratic process, and while i myself am not a lawyer i do have a friend who is a law student and as such she once to me through the creative commons license. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License. and explained why it protected Wikipedia and wiki's in general from legal prosecution.--FossilLord 18:45, December 13, 2013 (UTC) |
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Of the top of my head I think the Star trek franchise has released over 700 episodes. While it would be a long effort wouldn't it be worth it to have the transcripts of what happens in these episodes? I know several fan websites already have scripts for episodes so a conversion effort would be easier than starting from scratch given this franchises long history. welcome to comment on my talk page.--FossilLord 21:29, December 12, 2013 (UTC)
- The point of Memory Alpha is not to replace the viewing of episodes and films, rather it is to supplement them. Having transcripts on Memory Alpha would be ranging very close to replacing. -- sulfur (talk) 22:24, December 12, 2013 (UTC)
- [edit conflict] - It would not be worth it, and could be considered illegal. Star Trek is copyrighted work, and material directly from the shows or films is used here under fair use, which can only be claimed if what we use is a small amount of the total product, like a few quotes and a few images. Any site that has entire transcripts and the amount of images we have might as well be asking to be sued, and we're not interested in that. - Archduk3 22:32, December 12, 2013 (UTC)
Arch Duke of 133t may I point to the examples of recent wiki's like avatar: the legend of korra and adventure time which have transcripts and have not been sued? Also I can not find a record of any other wiki being sued. I am not suggesting replicating the entire script (sorry for any confusion) merely the spoken dialogue in the episodes.--FossilLord 03:09, December 13, 2013 (UTC)--FossilLord 03:09, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Again, go back to my comment. Supplement, not replace. Listing all of the dialogue replaces. -- sulfur (talk) 03:53, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
can we at least put it to some sort of community wide vote? I have arguments for why it would be a good idea and i am sure you can make a good piece about the benefits vis a vis supplementation versus replacing effect of the wiki. It would be the democratic process in action.--FossilLord 05:00, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
- Have to agree with both Sulfur and Archduk. Things are not decided by "community vote" or democratic processes, but by consensus, as on Wikipedia.I don't think you understand the legal issues here. Just because you can't find a wiki that was sued doesn't mean we wouldn't be(unless you are an attorney and know better than we do), and Paramount/CBS are stricter in protecting Star Trek than others might be in protecting theirs. That is also only part of the reason we don't have transcripts; that is simply not what we are about. The internet is big enough that we don't have to be everything for everyone. 31dot (talk) 10:07, December 13, 2013 (UTC)
I will agree with your view point on the democratic process, and while i myself am not a lawyer i do have a friend who is a law student and as such she once to me through the creative commons license. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_of_Creative_Commons_Attribution-ShareAlike_3.0_Unported_License. and explained why it protected Wikipedia and wiki's in general from legal prosecution.--FossilLord 18:45, December 13, 2013 (UTC)