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| − | This is the archive for discussions on [[Portal talk:Main|the main page discussion]] that are no longer relevant. |
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| + | == Lighter protection == |
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| − | ==Loose replies and comments== |
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| + | The Main Page is currently protected from being edited by all users without sysop privileges. I recommend lifting the protection to only include unregistered and newly registered users to allow legitimate users who lack sysop privileges but who have contributed to the Main Page (such as [[User:bp|bp]]) to more easily edit the Main Page. Does that make sense? --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 21:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | We need a category for Starships, probably even a shiplist? [[User:Harry Doddema|Harry Doddema]] 11:40, 23 Nov 2003 (PST) |
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| + | :I oppose. The main page is the first thing people see. If we are going to protect things like the featured article pictures, and picture of the day, etc., simply because they are on the main page, why would we open up that very page to the possibility of vandalism? I have other reasons as well... --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 21:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | You may want to feature the ''Ships'' link a little better. I couldn't find it at first. Also the sections ''Episodes and Movies'' and ''writing articles'' are a bit close at a resolution of 1024x768 pixels (I haven't tested other resolutions). That's not to pleasant on the eye's. -- [[User:Redge|Redge]] 20:09, 17 Jan 2004 (PST) |
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| + | There would be a possibility of vandalism... ''if'' protection was lifted entirely. I don't think those users who have been contributing or who will contribute legitimately are going to vandalize the Main Page. By only protecting the page from editing by new and anonymous users, we ensure that only trusted contributors edit the Main Page. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 22:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | == Possible Layout Changes == |
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| + | :If that were the case, why would we have a sysop level protection from any article period? Also, those things I pointed out that are currently protected are at the sysop level, so my argument still stands. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 22:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Working from your idea, [[User:MinutiaeMan|Dan]], I've also tried my hand at another [[Main Page/Temp2|example page]]. The layout is a bit different from the conventional. Some comments are also available on [[Portal talk:Main/Temp2|this talk page]]. -- [[User:Thunderbyte|Thunderbyte]] 00:27, 24 May 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | ::I'm all for a lighter protection... after all, that's what "wiki" stands for. Page protection should be the exception, not the norm, and while I don't think that we need to completely open up the main page for anonymous edits, letting logged in users edit seems to be a good thing... unless there's a sudden increase of vandalism, in which case we could protect again. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 22:33, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Hmm.... I think I know what you're saying about the information being "buried," but I'm not sure I like the alternative -- IMO the content looks too crammed in by having the third column turned into the community content. Besides, with all of that text being variable, it might not always match up for the heights. Nevertheless, I've tried a slightly modified version that turns the content into bullet list format -- that would be better for the vertical orientation of the material. |
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| + | Yeah, the sysop level protection is there ''just in case''. For example, some user may come along, make some legitimate edits, then get pissed off at something or someone and go on a vandal spree. So the sysop-only option is just there mainly as a precaution. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 22:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | However, I'm not sure that I like how the color scheme looks with the panels for the Temp2 example... IMO the partial-width red boxes don't look very good there. |
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| + | ::It also makes sense against other types of "unwanted" edits besides vandalism - think edit wars between contributors etc. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 22:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | I've thought of a possible compromise to address Thunderbyte's concern of the content... what if we removed the "Featured Articles" table and put that on a separate page? That would allow us to expand on the content more and bring the Encyclopedia table up a bit. Would that be more acceptable? -- [[User:MinutiaeMan|Dan Carlson]] 00:55, 24 May 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | Yeah, those, too. :) --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 22:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | I'm assuming that would include the "This month in trek history" cells as well? If that is the case, I think that could work. -- [[User:Thunderbyte|Thunderbyte]] 01:11, 24 May 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | :So why would we not want that same protection on the main page, the first thing people see? --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 23:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Well, wouldn't that kind of remove the need for making any changes in the first place? The whole point of proposing any changes was to ADD the Article of the Week feature! ;-) -- [[User:MinutiaeMan|Dan Carlson]] 01:16, 24 May 2004 (CEST) |
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| − | Good point :), though IMO, the large block of text at the start of things in the "Featured Article" table is a bit distracting. I didn't mind the "Useful Links" table, though having only one of them does look better. |
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| + | :::Hurm. The main page has to be protected. I would agree with an argument which said nearly every other page should be opened up, but the front page is where everyone starts. If someone vandalizes the Janeway page, the only people who will see it before its reverted are people who picked that time to look up Janeway. If someone vandalizes the front page, then it will be seen by each, and every person who comes here during the period of time before its reverted. Considering that I can't think of any beneficial contribution which any average Joe Shmoe would make to the front page, and that I could think of dozens of malicious things he could do, this seems like an unnecessary alteration. Keep it secure.[[User:Hossrex|Hossrex]] 12:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Another thought, though I don't know as Wikipedia could do this... if there was a way for a user to select which options they saw on the main page (i.e. the featured article table, the "useful links" table, etc.) perhaps this could be done in version 1.3 with the user-styles using visibility properities? -- Just a thought -- [[User:Thunderbyte|Thunderbyte]] 01:20, 24 May 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | Again, this discussion is not asking for the complete lifting of protection from editing; it will only allow editing from those who are already members and who have already contributed and can be trusted. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] |
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| − | I think Thunderbyte's design proposal for the main page is great. i'm supporting him.--[[User:BlueMars|BlueMars]] 01:29, May 24, 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | :Please don't read any aggression, or insult in my words. :) But what benefit could there possibly be from allowing people to modify the front page? At best, I see this page being modified every 15 minutes, and then reverted 10 seconds later. In another 15 minutes, someone tries to change it, and 10 seconds later its changed back. Over, and over again. At worst, someone... even someone you'd have thought was trustworthy... could vandalize the page very badly, and offensively. Why take the chance? Whats the gain? Wiki's are user contributed, and supported, but thats simply because two heads are better then one... so a million heads are probably better then two. That doesn't mean the page everyone sees everytime they come to Memory Alpha should be a candidate for vandalism. If you could walk us through what benefits there could possibly be in allowing people to edit the main page, we can discuss that. I'd love to hear some great ideas. :) But so far, I don't see any good reasons. [[User:Hossrex|Hossrex]] 01:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I am missing the "Popular Topics", "Wanted Topics", etc.. links. Is it possible to make a sepparte tool-page, or should we just use them through Recent Changes? -- [[User:Redge|Redge]] 15:57, 5 Jun 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | == News Error == |
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| − | See you´ve already cleared that up... -- [[User:Redge|Redge]] 20:16, 9 Jun 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | It seems that the news column says ''December'' 5th instead of ''January'' 5th. --[[User:Timeship DeLorean|UTS DeLorean]] 22:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Is there any way that the pictures that are used in Memory Alpha coud be of better quality, they are too blurry when you click on them. |
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| + | :Fixed. -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 22:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | == Icon change == |
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| − | == Seperate link for starbases/outposts/deep space stations == |
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| + | Do you think that it would be possible to change the icon that appears in the address bar fom the current one that just says 'M A' to the Starfleet symbol? [[User:Comtraya|Comtraya]] 23:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | A seperate link to the space stations should be created. It's inefficient to keep that one under the topic "Starships". |
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| + | ::Its kind of cliched for a trek website. -- [[User:Jaz|Jaz]] <sup> [[User Talk:Jaz|<span style="color:#9900FF;">talk</span></sup>]] 18:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :::With most browsers you can change the image yourself you just have to change out the file in your cache (very easy to do in Opera). unfortunately it only stays that way until you dump your cache for whatever reason. --[[User:User with a probe|User with a probe]] 18:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | == Too Long == |
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| − | ==Purpose of "This month in Trek history"== |
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| − | We hardly know any exact dates at all, and stardate converters only give vague interpretations of dates at best. I would rather suggest to relocate the link lists to the top, eventually they are the heart of the mainpage. --[[User:BlueMars|BlueMars]] 18:01, Jun 8, 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | Is it just me or is the main page entirely too long. It's only my opinion but the main page should be as concise as possible with explanation of MA a few highlights and easy access to the spectrum of information available. I don't think that people should have to scroll all the way to the bottom before they see info about editing. My suggestion would be to reduce the "Today in Trek history" and "Upcoming or Recent Episodes and Media" parts something similar to the links in the "Browse Memory Alpha" section at the top. Also I think we should relate the pic of the day to something at least close to the same lines as the article of the week IE each of the pics this week should revolve around Rene Auberjonois or his character Odo. I feel that having a main page that is 4 screen lengths long is a bit much and makes it feel cluttered. --[[User:User with a probe|User with a probe]] 21:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | : I added that section when originally setting up the front page because I thought it would be interesting for readers, despite the uncertainties. If several people really have a problem with it, we can find something else to put in that area. I hope you have some suggestions! :-P -- [[User:MinutiaeMan|Dan Carlson]] 18:25, 8 Jun 2004 (CEST) |
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| − | ::Perhaps something like "Did You Know?" from wikipedia or a short list of the most wanted unwritten topics(perhaps only the crucial ones here, like [[Klingon High Council]] or [[Cardassian Central Command]]) or a brief lists of stubs concerning crucial pages... --[[User:BlueMars|BlueMars]] 19:34, Jun 8, 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | :The front page is to long. The today in trek histroy can be shorten to the size of the did you know, or taken and put on it's own page entirly. The Upcoming or Recent Episodes and Media setion should have it's own page. That way it can be expanded, and all the countries that broadcast Star Trek can be shown. The lastest news can also be shorten to three bullets.Further more I feel that the browse section should be under the news and fetured article. – [[User:Randomname|Randomname]] 15:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I like that idea. I miss seeing those four lines on the main page -- but I like the "Featured Article" section :) [[User:Thunderbyte|Thunderbyte]] 03:42, 9 Jun 2004 (CEST) |
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| − | :By all means, keep the "featured article", but do something about this silly "this month in trek history"... ;-) --[[User:BlueMars|BlueMars]] 11:45, Jun 9, 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | Um... now that its 2007 should the "Celebrating 40 Years of |
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| − | ===Main page notes, May 2005=== |
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| + | Star Trek" banner come down? --[[User:User with a probe|User with a probe]] 01:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | * The st-minutiae website directory link under "The fans" is broken. |
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| + | *Good point, I think it's finally time to remove the banner as well. (Just 4 more years for the 45th anniversary ;)) - [[User:Enzo Aquarius|Enzo Aquarius]] 01:02, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | * I'd like to add [[collectibles]] link to the main page, whether under "other sources" or "the fans" |
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| + | **I agree that it should be removed. --[[User:Defiant|Defiant]] 02:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ** I'd like to change "other sources" to "other media", both to a) make "collectibles" fit better under it as a heading and b) to deaccentuate the fact that these non-canon works are "media" and not "sources" ie sources that might be used here for article material. |
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| + | ***I tried to remove it, [[User:Shran|Shran]] overruled a talk page discussion suggesting that it be removed. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 03:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> 17:32, 10 May 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | ****The 40th anniversary year doesn't end until September 8th, 2007. But, if you want it removed, then removed it shall be. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 03:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | :Barring any objections I've made the changes, and also added a link to our Categories, which I feel belongs under Other Features. If anyone objects or has an additional sorting suggestion I welcome it for discussion -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> 20:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | ****Nevermind, Cobra already took it upon himself to do it. You.... bad person, you. :-P --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 03:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | **** *gasp* :P - [[User:Enzo Aquarius|Enzo Aquarius]] 03:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | Perhaps we could change it to "Celebrating 20 years of TNG"...? [[User:Tired|Tired_]] 03:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | *An interesting prospect... - [[User:Enzo Aquarius|Enzo Aquarius]] 03:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | == A Italian-language Memory Alpha== |
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| − | ==Death notices/Hurricane relief?== |
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| + | *Discussion moved to [[Forum:Other MA versions#(it) Italian version?|Other MA versions]] thread in [[Memory Alpha:Ten Forward|Ten Forward]]. -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 15:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | With all due respect to both Brock Peters and James Doohan, I think it would be appropriate to remove death notices after one week's time. Also, I would like to suggest placing a link to the Red Cross in this space for a short period of time and encouraging donations to the relief effort, as some Memory Alpha editors and users have no doubt been affected by this tragedy. |
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| + | == punctuation == |
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| − | And lest someone accuse me of America-centricism, I would certainly support having temporary links to appropriate charities in the face of major disasters anywhere in the world. -- [[User:SmokeDetector47|SmokeDetector47]]<sup><small>| [[User talk:SmokeDetector47|TALK]]</small></sup> 02:53, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | please mind your commas and whatnot especially when doing the news. Front page...typos...doesn't make for a good first impression of the site. |
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| − | * No offense to anyone affected by this, but I oppose the Red Cross link thing and anything about all that. You can go anywhere and donate, and people don't need another place to be reminded of the tragedy. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this a ''Star Trek'' website? The only reason we put Doohan's and Peter's death notices here are because of their importance to Trek. We haven't added information to the articles about this, because it just is '''not''' important to Trek, and to Memory Alpha. If you want to donate to the causes, read about the situation, or anything, then do it somewhere else.<br>However, removing the regular death notices after about a week is a good idea. We don't need to be eternally reminded of their deaths. -[[User:Platypus222|'''Platypus Man''']] <small>| [[User talk:Platypus222|''Talk'']]</small> 03:24, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | **Well, even if we avoid the pitfalls of choosing to post a charity -- i still think that our community's thoughts are going out to the victims, and we could definitely alter the note to reflect that -- with links to any ''Star Trek'' related locations affected -- [[New Orleans]], [[Louisiana]], etc -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> |
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| − | ***Altering the death notice isn't a bad idea. It can show the feelings of people here, but I want that to be ''it''. You can go ''anywhere'' to donate; we don't need another. -[[User:Platypus222|'''Platypus Man''']] <small>| [[User talk:Platypus222|''Talk'']]</small> 20:21, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | ''Tige Andrews, the actor who played the Klingon ('''omit this comma'''), Kras, in the "Friday's Child" episode of TOS, died 27 January 2007 at the age of 86. [1] TOS assistant director Claude Binyon, Jr., also died on this day, aged 76. [2]'' |
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| − | :Hm... There's no stringent argument against such a notice, and I also agree to the limitation for the death notice, but it shall be two weeks. --[[User:Porthos|Porthos]] 20:46, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | --[[User:Babaganoosh|Babaganoosh]] 06:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | **I've added a simple note with relevant links to the Trek-related areas affected. I linked to [[North America]] instead of [[United States]] to avoid nationalism (as we encourage a future, "[[United Earth]]" perspective here). |
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| + | :While I agree we should be as correct in spelling/grammar/form as possible, I highly doubt anyone would have noticed (or cared about) a stray comma. Nonetheless, the comma has been removed and we are currently interrogating it to learn the whereabouts of the other misplaced commas. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 11:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | **Contrary to what Platypus Man said, i think this ''is'' Trek related as we have articles about [[New Orleans]] and [[Mississippi]] -- and interest in current events translates into interest in those areas, so its a shortcut to people visiting the [[Main Page]] who want to read about those Trek universe places. -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> 21:12, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | == mu:Main Page and mu:Special:Recentchanges == |
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| − | == Off-Topic, I apologize...Please Help == |
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| + | Hello, the interwiki mu language link doesn't work the way it should in every homepages of MA wikis. We all get an addition of a "mu:Main Page|mu:Main Page" at the bottom of the page. As equal, I get on [[fr:Special:Recentchanges]] right from "pages d'Aide et de Copyrights" words: a [[mu:Special:Recentchanges|mu:Special:Recentchanges]] link, too. Any fix for these weird things? Thx. --[[User:Conruyt|StarTrekMan]]<sup>([[User talk:Conruyt|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Conruyt|Contribs]])</sup> 13:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Hello, I am a Star Trek Fan (obviously) And also |
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| − | an aspergers Syndrome geek who is obsessive compulsive |
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| − | over science issues and physics issues with my entertainment. (Raise your hand if you knew that the |
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| − | Enterprise couldn't fly because the propulsion system |
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| − | would force it to go in big fat circles because of |
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| − | being off from the center of gravity...) I am interested in designing the ships that will lead us, |
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| − | hopefully, into a Trek-Like future. Herein lies my problem. I have submitted a proposal to WikiCities, |
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| − | and been rejected allready. (In hindsight, the short sweet and simple method may not have been such a good idea.) I wrote an apeal, which hasn't been answered |
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| − | in 10 days. I am hoping that this is an interesting |
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| − | enough of an idea that you guys would do me a favor |
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| − | and mail Angela, or, Go to the proposed WikiCities |
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| − | page and add two cents. Heres my proposal; |
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| + | :It was something broken in the upgrade. It's been reported to Wikia, and we're just awaiting a fix now. The reason for such is that it was (as I understand it) a special case interwiki link. -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 13:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :: Thx for your input here and there, I was hoping it wasn't caused by the upgrade. I was wrong. :-/ Let' wait, now! :-) --[[User:Conruyt|StarTrekMan]]<sup>([[User talk:Conruyt|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Conruyt|Contribs]])</sup> 14:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ThinkStarship Proposal 1.5 |
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| − | Hello, I hope that I am following the intended protocol around here, but where to exactly talk to others is a little vague to me still. |
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| + | == Project Cardinal == |
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| − | Anyways, operating on the assumption that this is how to open a conversation... |
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| + | Here's a decent question for all of you; |
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| + | Project Cardinal, for those of you who don't know, is an underground movement to get a new show entitled Star Trek: Cardinal on the air. In the past, the project seemed almost laughable, but over the last few months, with rumors that Manny Cota is now involved in the project, it's become something of a Trek phenomenon. |
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| − | I am the person who proposed "ThinkStarship". |
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| + | My question is; Is it important enough to get its own article on Memory Alpha? Just a little something explaining it as an underground movement and all that good stuff, just like we have articles for novels, actors and other real-world entries |
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| − | I did it short, sweet, and simple, because that is what the window size screamed at me, and, because I assumed that the idea was sound enough to state simply and quickly, and that you folks are busy enough that you would appreciate that. |
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| + | :Must be ''very'' underground-y, still, because I can't even get any Google hits for it. In any case, no, not until it has been announced as an official future series... and it's [[Manny Coto|Coto]]. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 09:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Let me walk through the Narrative of my experience a bit. I can't find the original proposal, but I will do my best to create it from memory; |
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| + | That's what underground means. If you'd like information, contact the president at ST-Cardinal@hotmail.com |
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| + | ::If it's so underground, then at this point in time, I'd say, no. It doesn't deserve comment right now. :) -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 01:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | Very well, just thought I'd ask, though I do suggest it gets added as it builds up steam – [[User:Keras|Keras]] 07:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Think Starship will have two main and distinctly different primary functions. The first will be to generate Textbooks on almost any given topic, and the Second will be to design and Implement a Space Colonization program with the goal of colonizing most of our solar system within 50 years. |
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| + | :Yeah. Let it stay underground for the moment... :) -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 10:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Especially since there's no mention of anything about it at Manny Coto's page, other than a [http://www.mannycoto.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=232 comment a couple of days ago] on his forum board from someone asking for his input, stating that it is "a movement with thousands of supporters spread across the entire world." The problem is, with no information on it what-so-ever, and no obvious support from Mr. Coto, this is, at the moment, nothing more than unpublished fan fiction. -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 13:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | [http://www.sliceofscifi.com/2007/04/06/could-a-new-star-trek-tv-series-be-on-the-horizon/ Cardinal] is picking up steam |
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| − | Allow me now to add a bit to that. |
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| + | ==Forum:MediaWiki Question! Hiding main page title?== |
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| − | Think Starships First function, to generate a batch of Textbooks, may admittedly be served better in some senses in Wiki Books, and overall, I'm not opposed to that, it almost makes sense. However, let us be clear about what I am saying here. This means a list of Textbooks covering at my latest list about 70 Primary Topics, and all of them inter correlated and inter-relative and interlinking. All of those Topics would be explored from the direction and perspective of pragmatic expediency to the topic at hand; Space Colonization. This is not the same, say for instance, as a Physics Textbook, because a standard Physics textbook does not have as its underlying Theme Space Colonization. Were I to start contributing to a Physics Textbook Effort already in progress, I would bet some people would rightly point out that I was putting in strange and obtuse digressions that seemed Extravagant and only vaguely relative. The Same thing applies for say, Sociology. This isn't a Textbook on the topic of Sociology; it’s a Textbook on the Sociology of 4000 persons isolated from the rest of humanity- Permanently. |
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| + | Hello. |
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| + | I noticed that, like on Wikipedia and most other Wikimedia wiki's, Memory-Alpha has the title of the main page ([[Portal:Main]]) hidden. |
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| − | All of that may be somewhat moot, I am willing to admit that Wikibooks may still be the place for those Textbooks, and I am comfortable with that as a final judgment, although I assume that Wiki Books would then have to make some effort to reasonably differentiate ThinkStarships' Texts from the Standard. |
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| + | I was woundering how that was done. |
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| − | The second Function of ThinkStarship, (namely designing and implementing a 50 year colonization plan for most of our solar system) Does not even slightly or sort of fit into a futurists WikiCity for a variety of reasons. |
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| + | --[[User:JohanTenge|JohanTenge]] 20:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :Here, it is done via CSS. See [[MediaWiki:Common.css]], the lines following the comment "''Hiding .firstHeading, #siteSub, #contentSub on pages in ns:Portal''". That hides the title on all "portal" namespace pages. The same can now be done for individual pages, because each page got an individual body class with the MW1.9 update. The class of this page, for example, is: "''page-Forum_MediaWiki_Question_Hiding_main_page_title''". |
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| − | The first is that ThinkStarship isn't Speculative, and its only real concern with "The Future" as such is the creation and management and implementation of its own plans. |
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| + | :IIRC, Wikipedia achieved something similar by using JavaScript. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 20:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | The second is that ThinkStarship is a very large umbrella, an umbrella so large that it might eventually open up to contain within it Futurist Speculation, although at first for relevancies sake, Futurism is well outside of the purview of think Starship. |
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| + | == The Black Donnellys == |
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| − | Futurist explorations and Think Starships Explorations are two completely different types of interests. One has one foot firmly in the realm of science fiction, speculation, and the realm of the hobbyist. The other is a much more serious, much more pragmatic, much more down to earth type of information, which will have to have very high standards of reality check operating inside of it. Both feet of ThinkStarship must be rooted in Science Fact, or at least, what we can reasonably assume will be Science fact in the very immediate Future. (There are some problems with Space Colonization which are yet to be resolved, the highest order of which are ecological. Given efforts like Wikis' own assorted other efforts, which I have taken a few days now to go look at, most of those problems are already well on their way to being solved if current Wiki trends continue. For instance, a very large database will need to be created, listing all of the organisms that will need to be included in order to have a stable and self sustaining ecosystem, and then all of the chemical inputs and outputs of all of those organisms will have to be charted and mapped. It’s a very simple problem solving process, its just that the database is so huge it hasn't been resolved yet.) |
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| + | On the main page it says NBC has canceled ''The Black Donnellys''. What does that have to do with Star Trek? - [[User:Patricknoddy|Patricknoddy]] <small>[[User talk:Patricknoddy|Talk]]</small> 20:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :As the note says, one of the performers was [[Kate Mulgrew]], a Trek actress, one that played a series captain no less. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 20:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | Just because of a actress doesn't mean that is technically related to ST. - [[User:Patricknoddy|Patricknoddy]] <small>[[User talk:Patricknoddy|Talk]]</small> 22:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :Yes it is, by our standards here. We keep up as much news as possible related to the main Trek performers and what they are doing. If we didn't, there really wouldn't be a whole lot to stick in the news section. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 22:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | == Português do Brasil or Português flag? == |
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| − | I'd like to list the Topics that do fall under the umbrella of ThinkStarship. |
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| + | The left sidebar is mentionned with a "Português do Brasil" wording... Shouldn't we change for the Brasil flag? --[[User:Conruyt|<font style="color:#FFD942;">'''''STAR TREK'''''</font> Man]]<sup>([[User talk:Conruyt|<font color="#FFFFFF">Space... the final frontier</font>]])</sup> 10:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Computer Hardware, Macro (Large Scale) Robotics, Micro (insect Scale) Robotics, NanoRobotics (Single Cell Scale) Robotics, Chemistry, Biochemistry, Ecology Sciences, Brain Anatomy, Physiology, Anatomy, Ergonomics, Plant Biology, Animal Biology, Human Biology, Digestive Science, Air Cycle Science, Artificial Intelligence/ Computer Software, Psychology, PsychoNautics, Sociology, Architecture, Arcologies, Electronics, Photal + Optical Sciences, Magnetic Science, Quantum Mechanics, Physics, Thermodynamics, Hydrodynamics, Aerodynamics, Solar Wind Sciences, Aesthetics, Navigation + Cartography, Basic Mathematics, Advanced Mathematics, Algebra, Calculus, Simulation Mathematics, Linguistics, Syntax, Personnel (Labor Management, Recreations), Personal (Hygiene, ETC), Symbology, Game Theory, Think Tank Science, Educational Science, Law, Ethics, Government, Macro-Process (Interco relation, Multidiscipline map) |
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| + | :We typically (as do most others) use the flag of the "mother country" of the language, i.e. England for English (even if it's American English, or Australian English, or Canadian English, etc.), France for French (even if it's Canadian French, etc.), Germany for German (even if it's Swiss German, etc.)... or Portugal for Portuguese. -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 12:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | Ok, so, why the mention in the left sidebar "... do Brasil"? Left it short: "Português", instead? --[[User:Conruyt|<font style="color:#FFD942;">'''''STAR TREK'''''</font> Man]]<sup>([[User talk:Conruyt|<font color="#FFFFFF">Space... the final frontier</font>]])</sup> 12:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::As was explained by the Admin of MA/pt, Brazilian Portuguese is quite rather different from "standard" Portuguese, something along the lines of Parisian French to Quebecois, but even more exaggerated I guess. That, and it was his choice. :) -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 13:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | That’s off the top of my head; there are more in my notes. Things that DO NOT fall under the Umbrella of ThinkStarship; |
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| + | He said "A versão em português" over there. But its interwiki links are tagged with "pt-br"!? I still don't get it but, never mind. No big deal here. Renegade answered the mother tongue position for the flags and Im ok with that. Thx. --[[User:Conruyt|<font style="color:#FFD942;">'''''STAR TREK'''''</font> Man]]<sup>([[User talk:Conruyt|<font color="#FFFFFF">Space... the final frontier</font>]])</sup> 13:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Science Fiction, Speculation, Religion, Politics (Except where to point out where science falters due to political motivations, and to transcend glass boundaries of paradigms.), Sexual issues (Except in later development, under "Sociology" and "Personal" subheadings), Games (Except in later development to raise funds for the group by generating games based on our objectives, and in the case of game theory as it applies to Simulation.), Recreational pastimes and hobbies (Again, except in later development, under "Sociology" and "Recreation" and "Personnel" Sub headings.) |
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| + | :As far as the "do Brasil" goes, the text in the sidebar for a given interwiki link is automatically generated by the MediaWiki software, and since the Wikia tech folks used the Brazilian Portuguese template when setting up MA/pt, the interwiki link became "pt-br" and the resulting text for the interwiki links became "Português do Brasil" rather than simply "Português". (Even though the url for the Portuguese version is <nowiki>"http://memory-alpha.org/pt/..."</nowiki> rather than <nowiki>"http://memory-alpha.org/pt-br/..."</nowiki>, which would be analogous to the Chinese url, which is <nowiki>"http://memory-alpha.org/zh-cn/..."</nowiki>. Go figure.) -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 14:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | Now, I get it! ;-) Thanks for enlightning. --[[User:Conruyt|<font style="color:#FFD942;">'''''STAR TREK'''''</font> Man]]<sup>([[User talk:Conruyt|<font color="#FFFFFF">Space... the final frontier</font>]])</sup> 18:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I hope that this clarifies where ThinkStarship is coming from, and what its needs are. |
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| + | :::Isn't supposed to be spelled '''Brazil'''? - [[User:Patricknoddy|Patricknoddy]] <small>[[User talk:Patricknoddy|Talk]]</small> 22:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::In french, it's "s". And StarTrek Man is french. :) -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 22:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Since this is my "Write a detailed proposal" prequel, let me finish with selling the project. What I am offering "Wiki" is essentially a public NASA. The problems of Space colonization are sure to generate remarkable solutions for other problems...This is already the case for the current Space program. |
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| + | :Actually, in this case, it has nothing to do with French or Star Trek Man... it's spelled "Brasil" in ''Portuguese''. :P -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 11:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ==June 8th 10th 2007== |
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| − | Think Starship will have to undergo several dynamic growth stages, including a lot of financial evolution, and I do have several business plans cooked up to raise funds at that stage of the overall plan. |
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| + | 3rd annual Trek convention. held in Bonn Germany posted by commander data |
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| + | :Yes, that's nice... And that has what to do with the main page? --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 13:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Obviously, in order to implement what is designed, mostly here on the Wiki, many other computer and software resources will need to be employed, and the Wiki adventure is a sort of infancy for the Think Starship Endeavor. |
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| + | == LATEST NEWS: 16 May 2007 == |
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| − | Thanks for all of your time and energy in this, sincerely, Prometheuspan aka john bassist for ThinkStarship |
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| + | Slight correction: [[Phillip Pine]] played [[Phillip Green|Colonel Green]] in {{TOS|The Savage Curtain}}, not {{TOS|All Our Yesterdays}}. [[User:Njr75003|njr75003]] 06:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Prometheuspan 01:50, 1 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | :Sorry...what does this have to do with the main title page?--[[User:SebastianProoth|SebastianProoth]] 07:26, 17 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | [[User:Prometheuspann|Prometheuspann]] 23:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | ::It came to the light recently that Phillip Pine had died in late 2006. It may be old news, but it's news nonetheless. It's listed in the "Latest News" section on the main page and had the wrong episode citation, which I just corrected from "All Our Yesterdays" to "The Savage Curtain". --[[User:Jörg|Jörg]] 07:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Discussion of Main page elements== |
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| − | ===Featured Pages=== |
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| − | ==== "Did You Know" feature ==== |
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| − | :''See [[Template talk:DidYouKnow]]'' |
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| + | :Understood. Thanks for clearing that up.--[[User:SebastianProoth|SebastianProoth]] 07:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I suggest you add the information about ''Gargoyles'' to the front page for a while, it's a funny side-note in Trek history that a lot of the major actors happened to work on the same cartoon series. It's arguably the largest single migration of Trek people in history. |
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| + | == Special:Wantedpages lists many episode pages that already exist == |
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| − | The wormhole actually did appear on DS9 episode 1:01. However, the comet did not. I verified this when I saw it by bringing up the episode and watching it. |
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| + | :''Discussion moved to [[Template talk:EpLink]] to keep it all in one place...'' |
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| − | :This just isn't true -- both my video and DVD copy of Emissary show a big blue comet at the very beginning of the openeing credits -- and no wormhole at the end of the credits sequence. Emissary being episode 1.01 and the credits sequence being the part where they play the music and list names like Michael Piller and Avery Brooks.. are you watching the same thing?? -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain M.K.B.]] 18:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::The comet was seen in every episode of DS9, it was never removed. The wormhole was not seen in "Emissary", true as well. In the German version of the episode however, they just used the regular opening credits from the series, so in that version , there is a wormhole, even though it has not been discovered yet. This might also be true for other versions of the episode in other countries so maybe this is where the confusions stems from. --[[User:Jörg|Jörg]] 11:34, 6 April 2006 (PDT) |
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| − | :::It is possible that the user who posted the comment is either German or lieing; they did not sign their comment. - [[User:Weebiloobil|weebiloobil]] 11:49, 30 July 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | == Something screwy with the pic of the day == |
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| − | I am almost certain that the entire cast of Star trek Voyager was also seen in The episode: Night, Of the same series as equinox. Around the time when The crew refuses to follow Captain Janeways orders to leave her behind in the shuttle. |
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| + | We've still got the Phlox image up but clearly there are other images that've been tagged for days since the Odyssey one came up. Anybody know what's up?--[[Special:Contributions/76.199.8.123|76.199.8.123]] 13:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Janeway walked around the bridge, Tom, Chakotay, Blanna, Tuvok and Harry were all at their normal stations, The doctor, 7 of 9 and nelix were also in various locations. |
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| + | :I'm seeing Leonard, the iguana, which is the correct pic for 12 September. Try flushing your browser cache and reloading the page. -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 14:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | --[[User:Archer02|Archer02]] 01:33, 22 May 2006 (GMT) |
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| + | ::Ah nuts you're right I hadn't thought about that.--[[Special:Contributions/76.199.8.123|76.199.8.123]] 23:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ==To Protective About Main Page== |
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| + | It's been in my head for a while now, but I never got the energy to ask about it. It is understandable that the Main Page is protected for all non-admin. But when it comes to the AOTW. Everybody can nominate a featured-article-page to be an AOTW. but, when it is a new week, and we have a new AOTW, only admins can edit the template. thus, only admins can really change the AOTW. Can't we make it so that atleast ArticleOfTheWeek-template is not protected for non-admins? I mean, sure, you can just ask an admin to make the switch, but it takes time. and if you would find errors that made it through, like that for this weeks AOTW (Dominion War) the source-episode-list is not complete, a few episodes are missing, you can't fix it yourself. You would have to ask an admin, and wait for him/her to do it. |
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| − | With [[Star Trek: Enterprise]] over, there won't be any new episodes for a while-- minimum of years, so that kinda renders this topic obsolete. I suggest it's removal, and replaced with a general "Star Trek News"-like thing. ie: In the immediate future, it could list the release dates of the [[Star Trek: Insurrection (Special Edition)|special edition of Insurrection]] and [[ENT Season 2 DVD|Star Trek: Enterprise Season Two]]. -[[User:AJHalliwell|AJHalliwell]] 03:51, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :Well there are still re-runs for a while, not that those are kept track of here. But it sounds good to me (the change). And, oh boy, ''Insurrection'' will be released today! --[[User:Gvsualan|Gvsualan]] 04:02, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :: The ''Director's/Special Edition'' I assume? — [[User:Pd THOR|THOR]] 05:17, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Correct, a 2-disc SE.--[[User:Gvsualan|Gvsualan]] 06:39, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::I agree to remove the "Latest episodes" features. One possibility would be to simple delete it, another one would be too rename it "Upcoming episodes" to include all sorts of reruns. What do you think? -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 14:19, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | If you are worried about vandals, let me remind you of this: it is not so easy to change the AOTW displayed. We have a lot of users that could fix it just seconds after it was damaged. and it is not just to click ''edit'', you would have to find it first. and that is not the easiest thing to do for a new visitor, or a new user. Any thoughts about my thoughts?--[[User:LtCmdr-Vulcan | Örlogskapten]]. [[User talk:LtCmdr-Vulcan | Qapl'a]]! 16:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Whomever implemented Mr. Highwind's suggestion forgot that The Next Generation is also airing. [[User:Makon|Makon]] 04:51, 22 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | :Part of the issue there is a bug in the mediawiki code. Our choices are: |
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| − | :What about the latest episodes of the remastered [[TOS]]? - [[User:Cheated-tricked-patted|Cheated-tricked-patted]] Oct. 1, 2006 |
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| + | :# Cascade protect |
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| + | :# Protect each item individually, which means protecting the POTD items and AOTW items (and pictures!) when they change. |
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| + | :The first means that certain things have to be updated by admins. |
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| + | :The second means that an admin has to be constantly protecting/un-protecting articles and images. |
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| + | :You can certainly see which requires less work. |
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| + | :Oh, and the AOTW source list... adding the two extra episodes to it goes over the limit. Grand scheme of things, missing one episode in the cite? Not a disaster. Especially when there are so many listed already. It almost seems like the citation is longer than the blurb! -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 17:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::What he said... although there's a third option - create weekly subpages, just like the "Did You Know" feature has. That way, future AotWs could be edited by anyone and would automatically be displayed on the main page and protected on monday morning server time. If someone wants to work on that change, go ahead. Maybe we could combine that with a general cleanup of all the scattered AotW pages and instructions... -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 17:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::The new TOS episodes would definitely belong there, that's for sure. [[User:Mewtroid|Mewtroid]] 20:53, 2 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::: They already are, I implemented it several days ago. --[[User:Gvsualan|Alan del Beccio]] 22:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | Tnx for fast answers. I do see the problem Sulfur described, and I do like Cid's idea. I don't know how to make the idea possible, i'm not used to mediawikicode (or other code for that matter). But I hope that anyone that know how to do it, will do it :-D. --[[User:LtCmdr-Vulcan | Örlogskapten]]. [[User talk:LtCmdr-Vulcan | Qapl'a]]! 18:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ===="Popular Topics" feature==== |
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| − | What signification does this rubric contain? Let's remove it from the Main Page, which would in turn increase its lucidity. By the way, who decides what articles are the most popular ones? --[[User:BlueMars|BlueMars]] 11:15, Nov 19, 2004 (CET) |
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| − | :[[Special:Popularpages]] was th origin of this feature -- it measures hit count -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> 17:25, 10 May 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I agree with the removal suggestion. The Top Ten (as seen on the special page) would be relatively boring to include. Let's use that space for something else. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 14:22, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | : I suggested a "Newest Articles" area that could replace this, but I also think that using a selection from the top 50 popular pages (excluding movies and series) would be okay for this. [[User:Logan 5|Logan 5]] 15:25, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | : What the * is this? Popular topics? Remove this crappy feature! [[User:Punked|Punked]] 30 March 2006 |
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| + | :::Done. -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 19:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ===="Unwritten Topics" feature==== |
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| − | Is the unwritten topics template on the mainpage really necessary? MA/en has more than 10000 articles, unwritten topics are mostly characters, who appear only in one episode or other not very important topics. I think it is better to take a stubs template on the mainpage, because there are a lot of short articles in the database. -- [[User:Batrox|Batrox]] 14:10, 16 May 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :I agree, but I think we should have both. Perhaps get rid of "Popular topics" if we need room--[[User:Dalen|Dalen]] 17:18, 27 May 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ::i object -- A simpler solution to maintain the spirit of the "Unwritten topics" section is to use it like we used to -- and not list more than one type of unwritten article in the template. listing an unwritten character, planet, actor or publication is possible -- there's no rule saying which unwriiten topics should be chosen. -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> 06:13, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :::The "Unwritten Topics" feature (here and on "Recent Changes") tends to generate stubs mostly. I generally don't like it, but that's another discussion. What's the general opinion about that feature? Is it really necessary on the main page, or should it be (re-)moved? -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 14:25, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Remove it/replace it with the stubs. --[[User:Porthos|Porthos]] 20:55, 2 Sep 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | == WGA strike == |
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| − | Another issue: Heart Attack is listed, but it is a written topic, complete with blue link and article. |
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| + | For the "News", maybe add something about the WGA strike and the fact that Orci and Kurtzman are striking, as well as Lindelof and JJ in between filming for the movie? |
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| + | [http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/06/star-trek-producers-join-picket-lines/ WGA strike at trekmovie.com] |
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| + | :As long as it isn't worded to sound like it is going to impact production of the new movie, as it won't. We have precedent for reporting things about those involved in the production of Trek that don't directly impact Trek, as what new series they are starring in, etc. This may be worth putting on the main page, but it needs to be worded carefully. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 01:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::I don't think there's any need to add it to the main page. We know there's a writers' strike going on. Abrams, Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof happen to be WGA members (as all Hollywood writers are), hence they are required to strike. The news is that there's a strike, not which members are involved. And since the strike isn't related to ''Trek'' and won't affect the film, I don't think there's really a need to add it. Just my opinion. |
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| + | ::We could just alert people that production ''Star Trek'' won't be affected by the strike, although Abrams, Orci, Kurtzman , and Lindelof are striking. We can cite [http://trekmovie.com/2007/11/06/star-trek-producers-join-picket-lines/ this report here]. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 05:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :::I'm just updating the news page now about the start of shooting, and stating that production will not be affected. It seems appropriate to include it there as an aside, instead of as a separate item. -- [[User:DarkHorizon|Michael Warren]] | [[User talk:DarkHorizon|''Talk'']] 12:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::I knew it would affect production, but it is a good thing to note. --[[Special:Contributions/75.1.136.53|75.1.136.53]] 01:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::::I agree, and I don't think anything further needs to be mentioned unless it affects the new movie. [[User:31dot|31dot]] 02:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | == hey everybody? == |
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| − | ==== Technology In Main Subject Divisions ==== |
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| − | The following was placed in Ten Forward, but somebody archived before I got an answer -- how infuriating. A less mature person would use name calling at this point. Anyway here: --[[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> |
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| − | :I noticed that you have a page called technology, which lists some forms. You have other pages that list things like: Military, Propulsion, and other types of specified tech. (under a diffrent heading which only covers some of the general divison) All the specified forms do not cover all topics. The remianing ones are on the page titled, "Technology", which can not be aceesed from the main page. Also, the heading "Science and Technology", does not have any tech under it. The label is incorrect. For oginization's sake, and for an easier way to move aroud MA, We could fix this problem by doing one of the following things: |
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| + | Is [http://www.flickr.com/photos/50972001@N00/1992819361/ this] only happening to me?! — '''[[User:pd_THOR|<span style="color:#CC0000;">THOR</span>]]''' <sup>[[User_talk:pd_THOR|<span style="color:#FF9933;">''=/\=''</span>]]</sup> 02:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | #Have one page called "Technology", with subdivisons under it. Rename "Science and tech" just Science. |
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| + | :A-men I had the same comment below ! |
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| − | #Have diffrent areas of technology listed under what is now called the "Space Travel and hardware section", incldue the links from the current page, "Technology" and rename the catagory, "Technology" Then we can Rename "Science and tech" just Science. ''(unsigned)'' |
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| − | If anyone has any ideas for what kind of topics and categories we want to have on the front page, suggest them here! -- [[User:MinutiaeMan|MinutiaeMan]] 07:37, 8 Dec 2003 (PST) |
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| − | I think a uniform catigory should be under either Races and Cultures or Government and Politics. |
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| − | -Philip |
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| + | :Last time I visited Memory Alpha a few months back it had a really nice main page and all the pages were of consitent style. Now there is a huge banner ad down the right hand side and its all white instead of grey. What is going on? Love the content though, amazing research and knowledge! Kudos |
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| − | ::If we are going to use wiki categories, I suggest we replace the links on the main page with <nowiki>[[:Category:(title)]]</nowiki> links. -- [[User:Redge|Redge]] | [[User talk:Redge|''Talk'']] 15:58, 3 Sep 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | ::Some testing was going on, and a bug was discovered in the mediawiki software as relates to the skins chosen. Unfortunately, it has the side effect of making things look... well... not so good at the moment. -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 02:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I'd like to suggest adding the [[Arts and music|List of arts and music]] under the "Society and Culture" header. -- [[User:EtaPiscium|EtaPiscium]] 06:23, 9 Sep 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | :::A bug in the MediaWiki software? GASP! How can this be? They've been oh-so reliable in the past! Say it ain't so!!! --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 04:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I think it'd be a good idea to have a list of space stations/planet-based installations under the "Space Travel and Hardware". Right now there's no centralized list for both Federation and alien fixed installations (specific names and classifications) like there is for starships, and finding them's pretty difficult. -- [[User:EtaPiscium|EtaPiscium]] 18:22, 9 Sep 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | == IMDb character profiles. == |
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| − | ::I think Category:Starship classes should be added under Starships under the "Space Travel and Hardware" header --[[User:Dalen|Dalen]] 16:01, 18 Mar 2005 (EST) |
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| + | I have a question. I've seen it on wikipedia but is there anyway to link character profiles from IMDb.com to the character articles in the '''External links'''? Here's the [http://imdb.com/character/ch0001529/ Kira Nerys] profile on IMDb as an example. [[User:Fleet Admiral Selene|Fleet Admiral Selene]] 23:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Redge, that's a good idea to implement -- eventually. I think it would be better to have the categories established first and have them populated with material before we remove the old links. Otherwise we'd risk orphaning a whole lot of pages... |
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| + | :Like this, <nowiki>{{IMDb-link|type=character|page=ch0001529|name=Kyra Nerys}}</nowiki>, which gives you {{IMDb-link|type=character|page=ch0001529|name=Kyra Nerys}}. -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 19:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Gah. Those are pretty awful profiles I must say. Not entirely certain what they gain us (if anything at all), but that's just me really. -- [[User:Sulfur|Sulfur]] 20:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | == SPIKE == |
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| − | EtaPiscium, that's a good idea. I'll add that myself right now. :-) -- [[User:MinutiaeMan|Dan Carlson]] | [[User talk:MinutiaeMan|Talk]] 13:20, Sep 9, 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | Did spike drop the morning DS9 again? I didn't see it. :( [[Special:Contributions/24.253.224.152|24.253.224.152]] 19:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | I suggest adding [[sensor]]s under either "Space Travel and Hardware" or "Science and Technology". -- [[User:EtaPiscium|EtaPiscium]] 08:49, 23 Sep 2004 (CEST) |
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| + | I just registered, so I can't edit, but the main page is wrong about Voyager. It is not on x3 at 4pm, but x2. It is 6pm now and CSI is on. If someone could update it...[[User:Ciderbarrel|Ciderbarrel]] 23:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Suggestions for new Main page elements== |
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| − | Perhaps a picture of all the captains? I know it's a fan clichê, but it'd brighten up the page. Also, links to all the series and films under such a picture.[[User:Gul Reid|Gul Reid]] 21:27, 21 Jul 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | Voyager is now x3 at 3pm, and DS9 is only 2am, no 11am– [[Special:Contributions/207.172.154.188|207.172.154.188]] 03:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | Something like this: |
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| + | Spike seems to have removed DS9 from the lineup. Blade: The Series airs in its place instead on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays. Voyager airs twice in the day at 3PM and 4PM (CST GMT-6) and again at night at 12AM (again, CST GMT-6). – [[User:Jeffala|Jeffala]] 18:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC) |
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| + | == Links to Memory Beta == |
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| − | :Seems like a reasonable idea to me. Maybe if there's a way to rotate a single pic area through all four of them, that would be good.--[[User:Sheliakcorp|Sheliakcorp]] <sup>[[User Talk:Sheliakcorp|<span style="color:#9900FF;">Talk</span>]] </sup> 13:09, 19 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | What happened to all the links to Memory Beta in the articles? It was one of the more useful features of this train wreck of a wiki.[[Special:Contributions/68.190.213.230|68.190.213.230]] 12:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::You might try somthing like this at [[Portal:Star Trek]]. --[[User:Bp|Bp]] 10:49, 20 December 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | :The links are all still there, and thanks for the complement, always encourages help :| --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 13:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Train wreck of a wiki? The one thing I can honestly say, is that the longer you stick around here, the more the rules make sense. If you disagree with something, register and help. – [[User:Hossrex|Hossrex]] 23:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Newest articles?=== |
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| − | How about an area for Newest Articles (excluding users and talk pages)? [[User:Logan 5|Logan 5]] 15:23, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :Might be a good feature, but is there some sort of template to automatically include the newest article at any given moment? Doing it manually obviously can't work. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 17:02, 8 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | Probably not one currently, but could it be created a la the Unwritten Topics template? [[User:Logan 5|Logan 5]] 14:52, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :Well, the "Unwritten topics" list needs to be changed manually as well. It's not a problem in that case, because it isn't much more than 1 change/day. However, "Newest articles" would need to be changed whenever a new article is written, which can't be done manually. The only realistical way to approach this would be an automatic template like <nowiki>{{NUMBEROFARTICLES}}</nowiki>, which should at any time be resolved to a link to the newest article. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 15:17, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ::No way to generate a template or list off of [[Special:Newpages]]? [[User:Logan 5|Logan 5]] 15:35, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :Not one I see at the moment, I'm afraid. The only clean way would be to request that feature from the MediaWiki-developers, then wait until it is implemented and MA updated. An ugly work-around would be to create a bot that reads the "Newpages" list and updates a template accordingly, but I would advise against it. I might be missing something, though - perhaps a variable like that already exists and is just not listed with the others on [[Help:Variable]]? -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 16:05, 9 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | == The language links table == |
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| − | ==Other notes and comments== |
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| + | It seems that the Serbian language (Српски језик) is quite long in it's native alphabet and frells up the ratio for the little table at the top. I submit the following solution: change the widths of the columns from 50/50 to 47/53. [[User:Hoogamagoo|Hoogamagoo]] 14:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | === Popular pages === |
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| + | :It looks fine to me. Could it be your resolution? --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 06:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | The popular pages on the main page are different to the popular pages listed [[Special:popularpages|here]]. How often is it updated? [[User:Excelsior|Excelsior]] 18:23, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Fine for me too, I'm running at 1280x800 (widescreen), so that skews things. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 06:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :I'm on 1280x1040, ftr. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 06:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | Hmmm... I use 1280X800 (widescreen) as well. I'm using Firefox and I'm running Ubuntu Linux. I propose the theory that it's my default font (Bitstream Vera Sans). But anyway, is it worth bothering making a minor imperceivable change (to most) for us in the minority -- and we're a growing minority! :-) [[User:Hoogamagoo|Hoogamagoo]] 16:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :Or you could change your font. ;) I don't think such a minor change will be a problem, though. I can't do it right now (plus I want to wait and see what others say) but I think we can change it shortly. --[[User:Shran|Not From Andoria, but Still with Love]] |
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| + | :::I'm at 1280x1024 using Firefox on Windows XP, and it looks fine on my system as well. -- [[User:Renegade54|Renegade54]] 17:06, 14 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | == Starfleet Command School == |
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| − | :That's a manual selection, anything special you want to change? --[[User:Memory|Memory]] 20:58, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | I've been trying to figure out exactly how long (on average) it takes to get through Starfleet Command School. I know that the Academy is 4 Years (or so I've been told), but I've never found out how long Command School takes. I tried a search on Google and found some mixed results. Some had it pegged as 1 Year, others had it as 2 Years. |
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| − | [[Special:Popularpages]] does no longer exist, so I suggest to remove this section, it's no longer to monitor. --[[User:Memory|Memory]] 21:53, 18 January 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | Suggestions, Number Ones? |
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| − | How often is the main page updated? It's been weeks since my regular visits and I'm still looking at Michael Dorn's face on the main page. Perhaps a weekly update would keep things fresher? Just a suggestion! --LancasterII, 23 February |
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| + | – [[User:Joseph T. Kirk|Joseph T. Kirk]] 00:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| + | :That's not what this talk page is for; you want [[Memory Alpha:Reference Desk|reference desk]], my friend. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 19:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ::There is no set time for anything - if you want something done, feel free to take initiative. You can go to the talk page, and make a suggestion for an update, and it's likely it will be implemented. [[User:Jaz|Jaz]] <sup> [[User talk:Jaz|talk]] | [[User:Jaz/Novels|<span style="color:#9900FF;">novels</span></sup>]] 00:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| + | ::Sorry about that. I still haven't quite gotten ahold of the ropes here. Thanks for the redirection.--[[User:Joseph T. Kirk|Joseph T. Kirk]] 20:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Feedback== |
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| − | Very intresting wiki site!... Thanx! --[[User:213.228.84.66|213.228.84.66]] 17:57, 15 Oct 2005 (UTC) |
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| + | == New Error == |
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| − | White text on a black background? Most disturbing and off putting. |
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| + | There's a huge typo... it says Decemner 27 instead of December 27. -- [[Special:Contributions/66.229.53.170|66.229.53.170]] 15:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC) |
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| − | == Uncyclopedia parodies Memory Alpha == |
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| − | Uncyclopedia's [[Uncyclopedia:Tlh:|front page]] has been temporarily redecorated today to parody Memory Alpha. Congrats! Plus I started [http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/Memory_Alpha this]. Live long ans prosper! --[[User:Nerd42|Nerd42]] 17:51, 22 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | *interesting... -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> |
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| − | ::Isn't it though? --[[User:Nerd42|Nerd42]] 02:02, 25 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | The idea posted below was suggested to me by [[User:Vedek Dukat|Vedek Dukat]]. The following was copied directly from what was posted at my talk page: |
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| − | :I was gonna ask you to implement a minor change to the main page, but perhaps it would be better to get some sort of community input first? I don't know - it seems minor to me. Anyway, here's the thing: In the Encyclopedia area, we have "Other Features" and "The Fans" sections, the latter having only [[Trekkie]] in it. What about switching the two (so logically Other Features would be last, since it's... well, other stuff) and changing "The Fans" to "For Fun" or something similar, then adding the following to it: |
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| − | :There was actually more I had in mind, but that's as far as I think we could go without needing input, votes, or whatever. What do you think? --[[User:Vedek Dukat|Vedek Dukat]] <sup> [[User talk:Vedek Dukat|<span style="color:red">Talk</span>]] | [[MemoryAlpha:User:Vedek Dukat/Episodes|<span style="color:gold;">Duty Roster</span>]]</sup> 07:34, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | I have posted his idea here so as to gain community support before implementing any changes to the layout of the Main Page. Personally, I think it's a good idea, but I'll wait and see what everyone else thinks. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 08:08, 29 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :This is a good idea, if for no other reason then because most people don't know that our little "extras" (especially the parodies page) exist. What I meant by the other changes was a covering of the fan films and such, because even the newly formed French Memory Alpha has more on that than we do. --[[User:Vedek Dukat|Vedek Dukat]] <sup> [[User talk:Vedek Dukat|<span style="color:red">Talk</span>]] | [[MemoryAlpha:User:Vedek Dukat/Episodes|<span style="color:gold;">Duty Roster</span>]]</sup> 05:00, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I like the change, especially the fan films part, which is an area I've always wished MA would cover (it is after all about "everything related to Star Trek). And I am among those who did not know about the parodies page prior to reading this. Another great idea, Vedek! :) --[[User:Broik|Broik]] 16:06, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | I would also like to see [[Memory Alpha:Babel]] mentioned somewhere, as I don't think most people know about it. [[User:Narco|Narco]] 18:25, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | '''Support''' --[[User:Memory|Memory]] 20:58, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | '''Support''' [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 21:01, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ===Suggested additions to main page=== |
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| − | * link to [[production timeline]], |
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| − | **especially [[upcoming productions]] (possibly in conjunction with "latest DVDs" - -which could/should be "latest releases" so we can add new games, tapes, self-sealing stem-bolt merchandising, etc |
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| − | *maybe a "this month's birthdays kind of template", |
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| − | * link the subheadings: [[people]], [[technology]], etc.. to any articles which may be considered "top-level" in these cases. -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain Mike K. Bartel]]<sup>[[User talk:Captainmike|talk]]</sup> |
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| − | :Moved to bottom, I think we can implement this with the stuff from above. Btw: anyone noticed the overhaul of the German MA [[:de:Hauptseite|Main Page]]? --[[User:Memory|Memory]] 20:58, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Yes, it puts us to shame and is quite impressive. [[User:Sloan|Sloan]] 21:00, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ==Main Page/temp (now obsolete)== |
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| − | What do you guys think of this? It's really uneven with the DVDs, Popular Topics, Unwritten Topics, AND Did You Knows all stacked against the AotW - normal Wikis only have a paragraph for the FA/AotW, but our layout would necessitate way too much. |
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| − | The other thing is the "Trek and Culture" part because a) the parodies page isn't really linked from many obvious places, b) the "Trekkies" link looked lonely, and c) we're expanding lately anyway, so why not let the trend continue. [[User:Weyoun|Weyoun]] 07:04, 8 Nov 2005 (UTC) — [http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php?title=Main_Page/temp&oldid=194762 Weyouns version] |
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| − | :Another thing to '''support''' (Hm, it's really time for a [[Drydock|refit]]...) --[[User:Memory|Memory]] 21:16, 30 Nov 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | I think we need some way to integrate the Article of the Week into a panel-like area the way the German version, Wikipedia, Star Wars Wiki, etc. all do. I'm not sure how to go about this though. --[[User:Vedek Dukat|Vedek Dukat]] <sup> [[User talk:Vedek Dukat|<span style="color:red">Talk</span>]] | [[MemoryAlpha:User:Vedek Dukat/Episodes|<span style="color:gold;">Duty Roster</span>]]</sup> 01:45, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC) — [http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php?title=Main_Page/temp&oldid=194865 Vedeks version] |
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| − | :I'm not sure how to do it either. Think the German MA folks'll feel like sharing? I also don't think we needed to move the Popular Topics and Unwritten Topics to the right side. Everything else, however, looks great! --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 05:58, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | Ok, [[User:Broik|Broik]] did another [http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php?title=Main_Page/temp&oldid=194971 test], I tried to regard all suggestions from above, [http://www.memory-alpha.org/en/index.php?title=Main_Page/temp&oldid=196666 discuss it] or try your own. --[[User:Memory|Memory]] 14:03, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | :I think the pictures of each crew are a bit much in the current temp page. Also, we need to figure out a way to put the Trivia and Article of the Week sections in their own boxes. --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 20:53, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | ::If you really want to implement boxes that must be done for the whole page, otherwise it will be unbalanced. That's a big change - we need some more to second that. --[[User:Memory|Memory]] 21:25, 1 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | Does anybody have any thoughts or comments on the recent changes to the Main Page? I kinda like the way it looks myself, but that's just one little [[Andorian]]'s opinion. :-P Anyway, I also have a suggestion should the "News and Updates" stay the way it is: I think we use this section not only for updates on DVD releases, but also for other news pertaining to ''Trek'', such as news about new movies or TV shows, as well as deaths and marriages. I'm not sure yet how we would handle that, but that's why I'm putting it here to be discussed. :) --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 21:14, 28 Dec 2005 (UTC) |
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| − | I think a big problem with MA right now is that while we are all willing a make little changes, nobody really wants to do the major work on something like an episode summary, or major event (ie [[Earth-Romulan War]], and [[Babel Crisis]]) I think a partial sollution would be to create a Collaboration of Week on the main page. It would be the main focus, and after a week is replace with another major page needing attention. [[User:Jaz|Jaz]] 02:30, 7 Jan 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :I took the bait and overhauled the Earth-Romulan War. :) [[User:Aholland|Aholland]] 22:48, 5 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | It has been suggested to me by [[User:Mafeu|Matthew Fenton]] that we post an alert on the main page for a few days telling people about the new [[Memory Alpha:IRC|Memory Alpha IRC]] channel. Because the "chat" link is already in the navigation bar at the left, I don't feel this is particularly necessary, but others may find it useful. What do you guys think? --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 19:48, 24 January 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :Umm, if they don't notice the link on the navigation bar it seems unlikely that they'll notice this... Then again, I guess things on the nav bar do blend together sometimes. I don't know, it couldn't hurt. --[[User:Vedek Dukat|Vedek Dukat]] <sup> [[User talk:Vedek Dukat|<span style="color:red">Talk</span>]] | [[MemoryAlpha:User:Vedek Dukat/Episodes|<span style="color:gold;">Duty Roster</span>]]</sup> 01:33, 26 January 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :Definitely gets my support - remove "Did you Know", add something like "News", and perhaps merge that with the template for DVD releases while we're at it. Shran, perhaps you can already create that template and link it here to show everyone what might be the future content? -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 19:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | | <div style="padding:0.25em; text-align:justify; margin-bottom:0.5em; background-color:#181833; border:1px solid #222266;">[[Humor|Comedian]] [[Sarah Silverman]], the actress who played [[Rain Robinson]] in [[VOY]]: "[[Future's End]]", is set to star in her own comedy series on Comedy Central. She has also joined the cast of the film ''School for Scoundrels'', opening in July. [http://www.comingsoon.net/news/tvnews.php?id=12960]</div><div style="padding:0.25em; text-align:justify; margin-bottom:0.5em; background-color:#183318; border:1px solid #225522;">[[CBS Paramount Network Television|CBS]], which recently came into possession of the ''[[Star Trek]]'' television franchise as well as ''Trek''-themed public attractions, is planning to sell [[Star Trek: The Experience]] operator [[Paramount Parks]]. [http://www.trektoday.com/news/280106_01.shtml]</div><div style="padding:0.25em; text-align:justify; margin-bottom:0.5em; background-color:#181818; border:1px solid #444444;">[[Teresa E. Victor]], the long-time assistant to actor [[Leonard Nimoy]] and an occasional actress on [[Star Trek Movies|''Star Trek'' films]], has died. She was 62 years old. [http://groups.google.com/group/alt.obituaries/browse_thread/thread/616aaed113394b6/e653aa63ec931916?q=Leonard+Nimoy&rnum=1#e653aa63ec931916]</div> |
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| − | *Looks excellent, and love the colors. I've been waiting awhile for the 'Did you Know' section to be updated, but this would be even better. It has my full '''Support'''. - [[User:Enzo Aquarius|Adm. Enzo Aquarius]] 20:19, 31 January 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :*I agree about the colors, but as Cid pointed out on IRC, we need to find out some kind of color code to match the news items with (i.e. blue for cast/crew news, green for studio news, yellow for production news, black for death notices, red for marriages, etc.) The colors were Cid's idea, btw. ;) --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 00:00, 1 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Just a hint: we already have a news section on the mainpage, it's currently filled with outdated DVD releases (which should be removed completely). If you want to put the news on it, please use this section. I oppose to the removal of the Did You Knows, if we can't [[Memory Alpha:User projects|find someone]] to update them we should change the mode to a monthly rotation filled with the material of the [[Template:DidYouKnow|archive]], it's still interesting for new guests visiting the MA. --[[User:Memory|Memory]] 00:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | This is a great idea so long as someone is willing to keep it up to date. I don't want this discussion to fade into obscurity - we need to either move the DYKs to the current "latest DVDs" section or put news in that section. It would seem like news comes before trivia, but at the same time, I think it's a lot easier to keep trivia updated than news. I might start the project Memory hinted at if I get time - I'm already planning a way to salvage the Did You Know process. --[[User:Vedek Dukat|Vedek Dukat]] <sup> [[User talk:Vedek Dukat|<span style="color:red">Talk</span>]] | [[User:Vedek Dukat/Episodes|<span style="color:gold;">Duty Roster</span>]]</sup> 20:08, 6 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :If this is approved, I will certainly try my damndest to update it. Also, I would think that news takes prescedence over trivia, but that's just one little blue-skin's opinion. :P --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 20:10, 7 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | I love the Did You Knows, because very often a couple of of them I didn't. In fairness it is updated less than a feature like that demands, but instead of removing it, why not halve it in size. The Did You Know Trivia would go further and its a welcoming element on a page for Trekkies that aren't as knowledgable sa the rest of you. |
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| − | Should we add a link to important discussions on the main page (e.g. AoTW, Votes for featured articles, votes for deletion, etc.)? These would attract more people to these discussions and there may be more votes all in all. :) --[[User:Galaxy001|Galaxy001]] 22:28, 4 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :No. Most of these discussions require you be an active member for at least a week, so it's not really necessary. [[User:Jaz|Jaz]] <sup>[[User talk:Jaz|talk]] | [[User:Jaz/Novels|novels</sup>]] 22:35, 4 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::So you think it would attract non-activists? That makes sense then... --[[User:Galaxy001|Galaxy001]] 22:42, 4 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :::We do have links to some things on the recent changes page, but I think people who are interested will find most pages relevant to them, e.g. AotW is linked to on [[MA:FA]], which is linked to on the main page. There are a few pages, such as [[MA:CS]], which are pretty obscure - but in the case of CS, I raised the issue on IRC a little while ago and now it's under "utilities" on the recent changes page. If there's anything you think should get more attention somehow, feel free to bring it up on Ten Forward or IRC. --[[User:Vedek Dukat|Vedek Dukat]] <sup> [[User talk:Vedek Dukat|<span style="color:red">Talk</span>]] | [[User:Vedek Dukat/Episodes|<span style="color:gold;">Duty Roster</span>]]</sup> 01:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | I think adding a question mark after Did you know would be best, its not a run on sentence, and it would be more organised. [[User:Whopper|Whopper]] 00:16, 8 February 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | I added a note about William Shatner's birthday, its formatted to be removed at the end of the day. -- [[User:Captainmike|Captain M.K.B.]] 15:23, 22 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :Removed. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 09:15, 28 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | I'd do it, but I can't edit the main page. Under the different language MAs, the Spanish link needs to be changed to [http://memory-alpha.org/es/wiki/portada http://memory-alpha.org/es/wiki/portada]. -[[User:Platypus222|'''Platypus Man''']] <small>| [[User talk:Platypus222|''Talk'']]</small> 13:30, 27 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :Those links can be edited via [[Template:International]]. However, there seems to be something wrong with the "es" prefix - we could add a direct link as suggested above for the moment, but I'm not sure if we should. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 09:16, 28 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | I think it might be time to adopt some sort of policy for the use of those banner announcements... condolences after the death of major actors/production personnel are okay, but I think recent ones might be going a little overboard... ;) -- [[User:SmokeDetector47|SmokeDetector47]]<sup><small>( [[User talk:SmokeDetector47|TALK]]</small> )</sup> 03:04, 31 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :As my first official action, I concur. Besides deaths, since they're kind of sudden and implied, should a mini-vote be made? Policies though, definitly. (Hm, I wonder which recent ones you are speaking of?) (Thanks though ''blue skin'') - [[User:AJHalliwell|AJ]] 03:12, 31 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I think he's also referring to our inclusion of wishing [[William Shatner]] a happy 75th birthday, so it's not just me. :P Anyways, I guess banner announcements should only be used for deaths. (And you're welcome, ''pink skin''. ;)) --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 03:36, 31 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :I was thinking things like birthdays, etc. would work quite well in a new box similar to what Shran proposed above, since the "Did You Know" box is not frequently updated and it's somewhat difficult to find appropriate ones and write them. Something like "Recent events" or "Current events" or "[[Star Trek birthdays]]" or "This day/week in Trek history" or something like that... as long as the community keeps it relatively up to date, that is. :) But I feel only messages that are important enough to be the first thing someone sees when visiting Memory Alpha should be death notices of major individuals or some other really, really important announcement like the upcoming 40th anniversary or the launch of a new series/movie. -- [[User:SmokeDetector47|SmokeDetector47]]<sup><small>( [[User talk:SmokeDetector47|TALK]]</small> )</sup> 03:58, 31 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :::[[User:Florian K]] has a [[:de:User:Florian K/Jaybot|bot]] that takes information from the Memory Alpha archive and places them on templates. This should in time make it no longer necessary to update our daily [[:de:Memory Alpha:Kalender/März|templates]] in MA/de. MA/en is much larger, so the bot could really find something here -- [[User:Kobi|Kobi]] - [[{{ns:3}}:Kobi|(''{{ns:1}}'')]] 08:59, 31 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::::I, too, think that we should banner announcements sparingly, if at all. With a possible "News" section and perhaps a "Today in Trek history" feature as suggested, there wouldn't be too much left to be placed in an extra announcement. Perhaps we could simply start a "calendar" template and see where that brings us. Naming suggestion: "Template:Calendar/MM/DD". Via <nowiki>{{Template:Calendar/{{CURRENTMONTH}}/{{CURRENTDAY}}}}</nowiki>, information about the current day could then be included somewhere. Today would then be: [[Template:Calendar/{{CURRENTMONTH}}/{{CURRENTDAY}}]]. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 11:37, 31 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Oooh, a calendar template. I like that idea. :) --[[User:Shran|From Andoria with Love]] 02:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Given the discussion above, I decided to post this suggestion here, although I'm still working on it. It already makes use of some features that are still being discussed, namely "portals" (see [[MA:TF]]), a weekly DYK template (see [[Template talk:DidYouKnow]]) a news section and a "Daily history" section (see above). Anything below the heading "Old one" is, obviously, the current main page, which would later be removed. Feel free to comment here, on the other relevant discussions or the talk page of that suggestion. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 11:48, 31 March 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :Any comments on this suggestion? -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 20:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | It looks good. Although I hope you would keep the content of the bottom parts of the current main page. Like "Encyclopedia" and "Community". It also incorporates the suggestion from TF about putting the language links in a more prominent location. --[[User:Bp|Bp]] 20:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::I like the idea, however, I feel that news will tend to be out dated. I think we should go with your idea, but have a back-up (ie picture of the day) for when we are short on news. [[User:Jaz|Jaz]] <sup> [[User Talk:Jaz|<span style="color:#9900FF;">talk</span></sup>]] 20:38, 10 May 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Could someone add the spanish memory-alpha link to the main page? |
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| − | Ugh! Will someone fix that?--[[User:Kchisho1970|Kchisho1970]] 22:01, 29 April 2006 (UTC)! |
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| − | And please ban whoever the is sicko that put that up!--[[User:JDB|JDB]] |
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| − | ::Wikipedia protects the images on its main page. I think we should do the same. [[User:Jaz|Jaz]] <sup> [[User Talk:Jaz|<span style="color:#9900FF;">talk</span></sup>]] 22:38, 29 April 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Because of the commonaility between Ronald D. Moore with both Star Trek and Battlestar Galactica, we added you to our main page under "Friends". http://www.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Main_Page (On the Bottom). :) --[[User:Shane|Shane]] 20:20, 21 May 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | We should put a template at the bottom of the page that told all our languages and had links to them. Do we have a version in Klingon?--[[User:Gangsta-Easter-Bunny|Gangsta-Easter-Bunny]] 22:53, 10 June 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :There are links to other versions both in the sidebar and at the bottom of the page already. No one's started a Klingon version yet... -- [[User:SmokeDetector47|SmokeDetector47]]<sup><small>( [[User talk:SmokeDetector47|TALK]]</small> )</sup> 04:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | == Ron Moore archive == |
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| − | Some of you may remember [[Ronald D. Moore]]'s chat sessions while he was working on DS9. I don't think his behind-the-scenes perspective has been incorporated into Memory Alpha yet, but [http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/6952/posting.htm here] is a link to an archive of his posts.--[[User:StAkAr Karnak|StAkAr Karnak]] 19:17, 18 July 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Is it worth showing the readers that memory-alpha was in the NY Times - how cool is that? http://www.wikia.com/wiki/Wikia_in_the_news#July_2006 |
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| − | The entry regarding "Broken Bow" is incorrect. Williams was a Commander, not an Admiral. Can someone fix it? --[[User:Kevin W.|Kevin W.]] 02:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :It says on the main page that "In a Mirror, Darkly" was the '''700th''' episode to be hour-long. Funny, since there are only 500 or so ST episodes altogether. |
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| − | :: Let's do the math: 79/80 [[TOS]] + 178 [[TNG]] + 176 [[DS9]] + 172 [[VOY]] + 98 [[ENT]] = 700+, (you could also add to that + 21 [[TAS]] + [[Star Trek Movies|STM]]) --[[User:Gvsualan|Alan del Beccio]] 22:18, 5 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :::703/704 of the live action TV episodes all together (darn you Alan, beat me to it). --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup> [[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span></sup>]] 22:24, 5 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :::: I cannot see how I made such a miscalculation. Still is does not explain how you can say it is the 700th hour-long episode when, to my knowledge, all episodes of Star Trek are around 45 minutes long. Perhaps this is me, opening the proverbial can of worms. --[[User:Optrirominiluikus|Optrirominiluikus]] 06:54, 6 October 2006 (CET) |
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| − | :::Oh come on now, that is just being overly nitpicky. Sure, they are about 45 minutes of footage, but they air on TV over a one hour period due to commercials. The term is still "1 hour program", due to how they air. That is what the industry means when they say "1 hour drama", or "30 minute drama", it is how long the program takes up air time, including commercials. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup> [[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span></sup>]] 05:00, 6 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Ah. Ok. --[[User:Optrirominiluikus|Optrirominiluikus]] 15:45, 6 October 2006 (CET) |
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| − | Surely that's 'story-writing' not 'writing-story'![[User:Ehdee|Ehdee]] 00:44, 23 August 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :And that (region 2) release date has been confirmed by the new Star Trek Magazine. --[[User:Jörg|Jörg]] 16:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | Those friggin non-cannon scumbags ripped our name! Isn't that some sort of infringement? Just thought I'd bring it up...--[[User:CaptainCaca|CaptainCaca]] 23:23, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :The name "Memory Alpha" comes from something in Star Trek (see [[Memory Alpha]]), so it would not be infringement at all. In addition, [http://startrek.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page Memory Beta] (by the way, in the future, it would be a good idea to provide a link yourself) is the non-canon Star Trek wiki. That does not make them scumbags. They are covering something we are not, the information from the novels and such. THere is nothing wrong here. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup> [[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span></sup>]] 23:31, 12 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::As a scumbag administrator from "'''Memory Beta'''", I must admit that I my heart has been well and truly warmed by the support shown from fellow wikipedians. We are in the selecting a new name from the wiki based on a choice of '''Memory Beta''' or '''Memory Prime'''. There are two reasons for this (1) we recognise the success that "Memory Alpha" has been, and see our wiki as an extension that features Expanded Universe information, as stated by [[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]], and (2) both the names have been mentioned both on-screen and in print. |
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| − | ::So we are not rip-off merchant's, we are simply complementing the excellent work done here on '''Memory Alpha'''. Some users have expressed some concerns about this practise, as several users from MA have come over and called our wiki "quaint" and "less-real". I didn't share these concerns until today. How sad :-(.--[[User:The doctor|The Doctor]] 00:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :Please do not take the opinion of one disgruntled member as the opinion of all, or even a large number, or even a small number of us. I have a great deal of respect for what you guys do at your wiki. The only reason I myself do not contribute there is that I do not have any of these novels, and not that many of the games, and therefore do not have the knowledge. What you guys do is not less "real" (how can two things that are both fictional be more "real" than one another anyways), just covering a different area. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup> [[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span></sup>]] 00:07, 13 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Don't get me wrong, we have had some contributers from '''Memory Alpha''' that has been very helpful with the wiki, and by no means take the opinions of a few to be held by all, it's just dis-heartening when you read such comments. I'm aware that the wiki had been abandoned for over a year and could be regarded as some sort of joke. But know we have some new administrators and members who are really picking the wiki up, and we would love to gain the numerous contributers you have here to help improve our database. Over the last 9 months we've moved from having 1,000 articles, to nearly 6,000 and continue to grow. :-).--[[User:The doctor|The Doctor]] 00:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :::Indeed, CaptainCaca that almost qualifies as a personal attack, if you could be a little nicer to visitors it'd be appreciated. And as stated, both come from episodes of Star Trek; how should we feel if one of the TOS writers (the one in question has probably passed, I fear) came by and said "ugh, these scumbags copied off the name of that planet we did." Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and in this case shows a unification among Trekkers that is... I dunno, good. (P.S.: A cannon is a weapon that shoots projectiles.) - [[User:AJHalliwell|AJ Halliwell]] 00:53, 13 October 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :This is a known issue, which will be fixed once Wikia's developers find the time. Thanks. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 15:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | ::Now, that's ridiculous ... Please change the link. Today is Nov 18th and the link is still wrong. -- [[User:85.176.117.96|85.176.117.96]] 13:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :::It is better to fix the specific problem. As has been said, this needs to be done by the Wikia developers, not Memory Alpha editors or admins. Be patient. --[[User:OuroborosCobra|OuroborosCobra]] <sup>[[User Talk:OuroborosCobra|<span style="color:#00FF00;">talk</span>]]</sup> 13:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC) |
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| − | :I moved the page - to remove the H1. That could have been done in other ways, but since we have that working for portal namespace anyway, and the Main Page ''is'' a portal page, I chose to do it that way. About removing the H1 itself, don't you think it looks slightly silly (at least superfluous) if the welcoming page says "'''Main Page''' - from Memory Alpha"? Removing that H1 has become standard on most big wikis by now, probably for exactly that reason. -- [[User:Cid Highwind|Cid Highwind]] 12:46, 24 November 2006 (UTC) |
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Revision as of 15:33, 19 February 2011
Main → Main/Archive 2007Lighter protection
The Main Page is currently protected from being edited by all users without sysop privileges. I recommend lifting the protection to only include unregistered and newly registered users to allow legitimate users who lack sysop privileges but who have contributed to the Main Page (such as bp) to more easily edit the Main Page. Does that make sense? --From Andoria with Love 21:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- I oppose. The main page is the first thing people see. If we are going to protect things like the featured article pictures, and picture of the day, etc., simply because they are on the main page, why would we open up that very page to the possibility of vandalism? I have other reasons as well... --OuroborosCobra talk 21:47, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
There would be a possibility of vandalism... if protection was lifted entirely. I don't think those users who have been contributing or who will contribute legitimately are going to vandalize the Main Page. By only protecting the page from editing by new and anonymous users, we ensure that only trusted contributors edit the Main Page. --From Andoria with Love 22:21, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- If that were the case, why would we have a sysop level protection from any article period? Also, those things I pointed out that are currently protected are at the sysop level, so my argument still stands. --OuroborosCobra talk 22:25, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- I'm all for a lighter protection... after all, that's what "wiki" stands for. Page protection should be the exception, not the norm, and while I don't think that we need to completely open up the main page for anonymous edits, letting logged in users edit seems to be a good thing... unless there's a sudden increase of vandalism, in which case we could protect again. -- Cid Highwind 22:33, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, the sysop level protection is there just in case. For example, some user may come along, make some legitimate edits, then get pissed off at something or someone and go on a vandal spree. So the sysop-only option is just there mainly as a precaution. --From Andoria with Love 22:38, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- It also makes sense against other types of "unwanted" edits besides vandalism - think edit wars between contributors etc. -- Cid Highwind 22:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, those, too. :) --From Andoria with Love 22:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- So why would we not want that same protection on the main page, the first thing people see? --OuroborosCobra talk 23:44, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
- Hurm. The main page has to be protected. I would agree with an argument which said nearly every other page should be opened up, but the front page is where everyone starts. If someone vandalizes the Janeway page, the only people who will see it before its reverted are people who picked that time to look up Janeway. If someone vandalizes the front page, then it will be seen by each, and every person who comes here during the period of time before its reverted. Considering that I can't think of any beneficial contribution which any average Joe Shmoe would make to the front page, and that I could think of dozens of malicious things he could do, this seems like an unnecessary alteration. Keep it secure.Hossrex 12:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
Again, this discussion is not asking for the complete lifting of protection from editing; it will only allow editing from those who are already members and who have already contributed and can be trusted. --From Andoria with Love
- Please don't read any aggression, or insult in my words. :) But what benefit could there possibly be from allowing people to modify the front page? At best, I see this page being modified every 15 minutes, and then reverted 10 seconds later. In another 15 minutes, someone tries to change it, and 10 seconds later its changed back. Over, and over again. At worst, someone... even someone you'd have thought was trustworthy... could vandalize the page very badly, and offensively. Why take the chance? Whats the gain? Wiki's are user contributed, and supported, but thats simply because two heads are better then one... so a million heads are probably better then two. That doesn't mean the page everyone sees everytime they come to Memory Alpha should be a candidate for vandalism. If you could walk us through what benefits there could possibly be in allowing people to edit the main page, we can discuss that. I'd love to hear some great ideas. :) But so far, I don't see any good reasons. Hossrex 01:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
News Error
It seems that the news column says December 5th instead of January 5th. --UTS DeLorean 22:10, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Fixed. -- Renegade54 22:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Icon change
Do you think that it would be possible to change the icon that appears in the address bar fom the current one that just says 'M A' to the Starfleet symbol? Comtraya 23:11, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
- Its kind of cliched for a trek website. -- Jaz talk 18:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- With most browsers you can change the image yourself you just have to change out the file in your cache (very easy to do in Opera). unfortunately it only stays that way until you dump your cache for whatever reason. --User with a probe 18:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- Its kind of cliched for a trek website. -- Jaz talk 18:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
Too Long
Is it just me or is the main page entirely too long. It's only my opinion but the main page should be as concise as possible with explanation of MA a few highlights and easy access to the spectrum of information available. I don't think that people should have to scroll all the way to the bottom before they see info about editing. My suggestion would be to reduce the "Today in Trek history" and "Upcoming or Recent Episodes and Media" parts something similar to the links in the "Browse Memory Alpha" section at the top. Also I think we should relate the pic of the day to something at least close to the same lines as the article of the week IE each of the pics this week should revolve around Rene Auberjonois or his character Odo. I feel that having a main page that is 4 screen lengths long is a bit much and makes it feel cluttered. --User with a probe 21:17, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
- The front page is to long. The today in trek histroy can be shorten to the size of the did you know, or taken and put on it's own page entirly. The Upcoming or Recent Episodes and Media setion should have it's own page. That way it can be expanded, and all the countries that broadcast Star Trek can be shown. The lastest news can also be shorten to three bullets.Further more I feel that the browse section should be under the news and fetured article. – Randomname 15:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
2007
Um... now that its 2007 should the "Celebrating 40 Years of Star Trek" banner come down? --User with a probe 01:00, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Good point, I think it's finally time to remove the banner as well. (Just 4 more years for the 45th anniversary ;)) - Enzo Aquarius 01:02, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that it should be removed. --Defiant 02:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- I tried to remove it, Shran overruled a talk page discussion suggesting that it be removed. --OuroborosCobra talk 03:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- The 40th anniversary year doesn't end until September 8th, 2007. But, if you want it removed, then removed it shall be. --From Andoria with Love 03:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Nevermind, Cobra already took it upon himself to do it. You.... bad person, you. :-P --From Andoria with Love 03:32, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- *gasp* :P - Enzo Aquarius 03:34, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- I tried to remove it, Shran overruled a talk page discussion suggesting that it be removed. --OuroborosCobra talk 03:13, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- I agree that it should be removed. --Defiant 02:21, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps we could change it to "Celebrating 20 years of TNG"...? Tired_ 03:51, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- An interesting prospect... - Enzo Aquarius 03:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
A Italian-language Memory Alpha
- Discussion moved to Other MA versions thread in Ten Forward. -- Renegade54 15:36, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
punctuation
please mind your commas and whatnot especially when doing the news. Front page...typos...doesn't make for a good first impression of the site.
Tige Andrews, the actor who played the Klingon (omit this comma), Kras, in the "Friday's Child" episode of TOS, died 27 January 2007 at the age of 86. [1] TOS assistant director Claude Binyon, Jr., also died on this day, aged 76. [2] --Babaganoosh 06:33, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
- While I agree we should be as correct in spelling/grammar/form as possible, I highly doubt anyone would have noticed (or cared about) a stray comma. Nonetheless, the comma has been removed and we are currently interrogating it to learn the whereabouts of the other misplaced commas. --From Andoria with Love 11:51, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
mu:Main Page and mu:Special:Recentchanges
Hello, the interwiki mu language link doesn't work the way it should in every homepages of MA wikis. We all get an addition of a "mu:Main Page|mu:Main Page" at the bottom of the page. As equal, I get on fr:Special:Recentchanges right from "pages d'Aide et de Copyrights" words: a mu:Special:Recentchanges link, too. Any fix for these weird things? Thx. --StarTrekMan(Talk | Contribs) 13:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- It was something broken in the upgrade. It's been reported to Wikia, and we're just awaiting a fix now. The reason for such is that it was (as I understand it) a special case interwiki link. -- Sulfur 13:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
- Thx for your input here and there, I was hoping it wasn't caused by the upgrade. I was wrong. :-/ Let' wait, now! :-) --StarTrekMan(Talk | Contribs) 14:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Project Cardinal
Here's a decent question for all of you;
Project Cardinal, for those of you who don't know, is an underground movement to get a new show entitled Star Trek: Cardinal on the air. In the past, the project seemed almost laughable, but over the last few months, with rumors that Manny Cota is now involved in the project, it's become something of a Trek phenomenon.
My question is; Is it important enough to get its own article on Memory Alpha? Just a little something explaining it as an underground movement and all that good stuff, just like we have articles for novels, actors and other real-world entries
- Must be very underground-y, still, because I can't even get any Google hits for it. In any case, no, not until it has been announced as an official future series... and it's Coto. -- Cid Highwind 09:42, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
That's what underground means. If you'd like information, contact the president at ST-Cardinal@hotmail.com
- If it's so underground, then at this point in time, I'd say, no. It doesn't deserve comment right now. :) -- Sulfur 01:55, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Very well, just thought I'd ask, though I do suggest it gets added as it builds up steam – Keras 07:38, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- Yeah. Let it stay underground for the moment... :) -- Cid Highwind 10:48, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
- Especially since there's no mention of anything about it at Manny Coto's page, other than a comment a couple of days ago on his forum board from someone asking for his input, stating that it is "a movement with thousands of supporters spread across the entire world." The problem is, with no information on it what-so-ever, and no obvious support from Mr. Coto, this is, at the moment, nothing more than unpublished fan fiction. -- Sulfur 13:30, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
Cardinal is picking up steam
Forum:MediaWiki Question! Hiding main page title?
Hello.
I noticed that, like on Wikipedia and most other Wikimedia wiki's, Memory-Alpha has the title of the main page (Portal:Main) hidden.
I was woundering how that was done. --JohanTenge 20:18, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- Here, it is done via CSS. See MediaWiki:Common.css, the lines following the comment "Hiding .firstHeading, #siteSub, #contentSub on pages in ns:Portal". That hides the title on all "portal" namespace pages. The same can now be done for individual pages, because each page got an individual body class with the MW1.9 update. The class of this page, for example, is: "page-Forum_MediaWiki_Question_Hiding_main_page_title".
- IIRC, Wikipedia achieved something similar by using JavaScript. -- Cid Highwind 20:29, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
The Black Donnellys
On the main page it says NBC has canceled The Black Donnellys. What does that have to do with Star Trek? - Patricknoddy Talk 20:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
- As the note says, one of the performers was Kate Mulgrew, a Trek actress, one that played a series captain no less. --OuroborosCobra talk 20:56, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Just because of a actress doesn't mean that is technically related to ST. - Patricknoddy Talk 22:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- Yes it is, by our standards here. We keep up as much news as possible related to the main Trek performers and what they are doing. If we didn't, there really wouldn't be a whole lot to stick in the news section. --OuroborosCobra talk 22:40, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Português do Brasil or Português flag?
The left sidebar is mentionned with a "Português do Brasil" wording... Shouldn't we change for the Brasil flag? --STAR TREK Man(Space... the final frontier) 10:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- We typically (as do most others) use the flag of the "mother country" of the language, i.e. England for English (even if it's American English, or Australian English, or Canadian English, etc.), France for French (even if it's Canadian French, etc.), Germany for German (even if it's Swiss German, etc.)... or Portugal for Portuguese. -- Renegade54 12:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Ok, so, why the mention in the left sidebar "... do Brasil"? Left it short: "Português", instead? --STAR TREK Man(Space... the final frontier) 12:53, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- As was explained by the Admin of MA/pt, Brazilian Portuguese is quite rather different from "standard" Portuguese, something along the lines of Parisian French to Quebecois, but even more exaggerated I guess. That, and it was his choice. :) -- Sulfur 13:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
He said "A versão em português" over there. But its interwiki links are tagged with "pt-br"!? I still don't get it but, never mind. No big deal here. Renegade answered the mother tongue position for the flags and Im ok with that. Thx. --STAR TREK Man(Space... the final frontier) 13:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- As far as the "do Brasil" goes, the text in the sidebar for a given interwiki link is automatically generated by the MediaWiki software, and since the Wikia tech folks used the Brazilian Portuguese template when setting up MA/pt, the interwiki link became "pt-br" and the resulting text for the interwiki links became "Português do Brasil" rather than simply "Português". (Even though the url for the Portuguese version is "http://memory-alpha.org/pt/..." rather than "http://memory-alpha.org/pt-br/...", which would be analogous to the Chinese url, which is "http://memory-alpha.org/zh-cn/...". Go figure.) -- Renegade54 14:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Now, I get it! ;-) Thanks for enlightning. --STAR TREK Man(Space... the final frontier) 18:58, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Isn't supposed to be spelled Brazil? - Patricknoddy Talk 22:00, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- In french, it's "s". And StarTrek Man is french. :) -- Sulfur 22:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, in this case, it has nothing to do with French or Star Trek Man... it's spelled "Brasil" in Portuguese. :P -- Renegade54 11:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
June 8th 10th 2007
3rd annual Trek convention. held in Bonn Germany posted by commander data
- Yes, that's nice... And that has what to do with the main page? --From Andoria with Love 13:28, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
LATEST NEWS: 16 May 2007
Slight correction: Phillip Pine played Colonel Green in TOS: "The Savage Curtain", not TOS: "All Our Yesterdays". njr75003 06:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry...what does this have to do with the main title page?--SebastianProoth 07:26, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- It came to the light recently that Phillip Pine had died in late 2006. It may be old news, but it's news nonetheless. It's listed in the "Latest News" section on the main page and had the wrong episode citation, which I just corrected from "All Our Yesterdays" to "The Savage Curtain". --Jörg 07:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
- Understood. Thanks for clearing that up.--SebastianProoth 07:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Special:Wantedpages lists many episode pages that already exist
- Discussion moved to Template talk:EpLink to keep it all in one place...
Something screwy with the pic of the day
We've still got the Phlox image up but clearly there are other images that've been tagged for days since the Odyssey one came up. Anybody know what's up?--76.199.8.123 13:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- I'm seeing Leonard, the iguana, which is the correct pic for 12 September. Try flushing your browser cache and reloading the page. -- Renegade54 14:05, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
- Ah nuts you're right I hadn't thought about that.--76.199.8.123 23:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
To Protective About Main Page
It's been in my head for a while now, but I never got the energy to ask about it. It is understandable that the Main Page is protected for all non-admin. But when it comes to the AOTW. Everybody can nominate a featured-article-page to be an AOTW. but, when it is a new week, and we have a new AOTW, only admins can edit the template. thus, only admins can really change the AOTW. Can't we make it so that atleast ArticleOfTheWeek-template is not protected for non-admins? I mean, sure, you can just ask an admin to make the switch, but it takes time. and if you would find errors that made it through, like that for this weeks AOTW (Dominion War) the source-episode-list is not complete, a few episodes are missing, you can't fix it yourself. You would have to ask an admin, and wait for him/her to do it.
If you are worried about vandals, let me remind you of this: it is not so easy to change the AOTW displayed. We have a lot of users that could fix it just seconds after it was damaged. and it is not just to click edit, you would have to find it first. and that is not the easiest thing to do for a new visitor, or a new user. Any thoughts about my thoughts?-- Örlogskapten. Qapl'a! 16:48, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Part of the issue there is a bug in the mediawiki code. Our choices are:
- Cascade protect
- Protect each item individually, which means protecting the POTD items and AOTW items (and pictures!) when they change.
- The first means that certain things have to be updated by admins.
- The second means that an admin has to be constantly protecting/un-protecting articles and images.
- You can certainly see which requires less work.
- Oh, and the AOTW source list... adding the two extra episodes to it goes over the limit. Grand scheme of things, missing one episode in the cite? Not a disaster. Especially when there are so many listed already. It almost seems like the citation is longer than the blurb! -- Sulfur 17:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- What he said... although there's a third option - create weekly subpages, just like the "Did You Know" feature has. That way, future AotWs could be edited by anyone and would automatically be displayed on the main page and protected on monday morning server time. If someone wants to work on that change, go ahead. Maybe we could combine that with a general cleanup of all the scattered AotW pages and instructions... -- Cid Highwind 17:51, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
Tnx for fast answers. I do see the problem Sulfur described, and I do like Cid's idea. I don't know how to make the idea possible, i'm not used to mediawikicode (or other code for that matter). But I hope that anyone that know how to do it, will do it :-D. -- Örlogskapten. Qapl'a! 18:36, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
- Done. -- Renegade54 19:13, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
WGA strike
For the "News", maybe add something about the WGA strike and the fact that Orci and Kurtzman are striking, as well as Lindelof and JJ in between filming for the movie? WGA strike at trekmovie.com
- As long as it isn't worded to sound like it is going to impact production of the new movie, as it won't. We have precedent for reporting things about those involved in the production of Trek that don't directly impact Trek, as what new series they are starring in, etc. This may be worth putting on the main page, but it needs to be worded carefully. --OuroborosCobra talk 01:44, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- I don't think there's any need to add it to the main page. We know there's a writers' strike going on. Abrams, Orci, Kurtzman and Lindelof happen to be WGA members (as all Hollywood writers are), hence they are required to strike. The news is that there's a strike, not which members are involved. And since the strike isn't related to Trek and won't affect the film, I don't think there's really a need to add it. Just my opinion.
- We could just alert people that production Star Trek won't be affected by the strike, although Abrams, Orci, Kurtzman , and Lindelof are striking. We can cite this report here. --From Andoria with Love 05:29, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm just updating the news page now about the start of shooting, and stating that production will not be affected. It seems appropriate to include it there as an aside, instead of as a separate item. -- Michael Warren | Talk 12:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- I knew it would affect production, but it is a good thing to note. --75.1.136.53 01:22, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- I agree, and I don't think anything further needs to be mentioned unless it affects the new movie. 31dot 02:33, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
- I'm just updating the news page now about the start of shooting, and stating that production will not be affected. It seems appropriate to include it there as an aside, instead of as a separate item. -- Michael Warren | Talk 12:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
hey everybody?
Is this only happening to me?! — THOR =/\= 02:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- A-men I had the same comment below !
- Hrm, all better now. A glitch? How often do they affect us? — THOR =/\= 02:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- Last time I visited Memory Alpha a few months back it had a really nice main page and all the pages were of consitent style. Now there is a huge banner ad down the right hand side and its all white instead of grey. What is going on? Love the content though, amazing research and knowledge! Kudos
- Some testing was going on, and a bug was discovered in the mediawiki software as relates to the skins chosen. Unfortunately, it has the side effect of making things look... well... not so good at the moment. -- Sulfur 02:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
- A bug in the MediaWiki software? GASP! How can this be? They've been oh-so reliable in the past! Say it ain't so!!! --From Andoria with Love 04:31, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
IMDb character profiles.
I have a question. I've seen it on wikipedia but is there anyway to link character profiles from IMDb.com to the character articles in the External links? Here's the Kira Nerys profile on IMDb as an example. Fleet Admiral Selene 23:51, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- Like this, {{IMDb-link|type=character|page=ch0001529|name=Kyra Nerys}}, which gives you Template:IMDb-link. -- Renegade54 19:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
- Gah. Those are pretty awful profiles I must say. Not entirely certain what they gain us (if anything at all), but that's just me really. -- Sulfur 20:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
SPIKE
Did spike drop the morning DS9 again? I didn't see it. :( 24.253.224.152 19:11, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
I just registered, so I can't edit, but the main page is wrong about Voyager. It is not on x3 at 4pm, but x2. It is 6pm now and CSI is on. If someone could update it...Ciderbarrel 23:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
Voyager is now x3 at 3pm, and DS9 is only 2am, no 11am– 207.172.154.188 03:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Spike seems to have removed DS9 from the lineup. Blade: The Series airs in its place instead on Mondays, Tuesdays, and Wednesdays. Voyager airs twice in the day at 3PM and 4PM (CST GMT-6) and again at night at 12AM (again, CST GMT-6). – Jeffala 18:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
- I have not seen DS9 on Spike in some time, if the series has been dropped (Already?), then perhaps it should be removed from the where to watch under spike. --Terran Officer 00:31, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
Links to Memory Beta
What happened to all the links to Memory Beta in the articles? It was one of the more useful features of this train wreck of a wiki.68.190.213.230 12:38, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- The links are all still there, and thanks for the complement, always encourages help :| --OuroborosCobra talk 13:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
- Train wreck of a wiki? The one thing I can honestly say, is that the longer you stick around here, the more the rules make sense. If you disagree with something, register and help. – Hossrex 23:35, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
The language links table
It seems that the Serbian language (Српски језик) is quite long in it's native alphabet and frells up the ratio for the little table at the top. I submit the following solution: change the widths of the columns from 50/50 to 47/53. Hoogamagoo 14:26, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
- It looks fine to me. Could it be your resolution? --From Andoria with Love 06:24, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- Fine for me too, I'm running at 1280x800 (widescreen), so that skews things. --OuroborosCobra talk 06:26, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm on 1280x1040, ftr. --From Andoria with Love 06:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Hmmm... I use 1280X800 (widescreen) as well. I'm using Firefox and I'm running Ubuntu Linux. I propose the theory that it's my default font (Bitstream Vera Sans). But anyway, is it worth bothering making a minor imperceivable change (to most) for us in the minority -- and we're a growing minority! :-) Hoogamagoo 16:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
- Or you could change your font. ;) I don't think such a minor change will be a problem, though. I can't do it right now (plus I want to wait and see what others say) but I think we can change it shortly. --Not From Andoria, but Still with Love
- I'm at 1280x1024 using Firefox on Windows XP, and it looks fine on my system as well. -- Renegade54 17:06, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Starfleet Command School
I've been trying to figure out exactly how long (on average) it takes to get through Starfleet Command School. I know that the Academy is 4 Years (or so I've been told), but I've never found out how long Command School takes. I tried a search on Google and found some mixed results. Some had it pegged as 1 Year, others had it as 2 Years.
Suggestions, Number Ones? – Joseph T. Kirk 00:52, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- That's not what this talk page is for; you want reference desk, my friend. --From Andoria with Love 19:41, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
- Sorry about that. I still haven't quite gotten ahold of the ropes here. Thanks for the redirection.--Joseph T. Kirk 20:57, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
New Error
There's a huge typo... it says Decemner 27 instead of December 27. -- 66.229.53.170 15:13, 27 December 2007 (UTC)