News on Star Trek
Could someone please implement the following news: http://www.space.com/entertainment/080211-star-trek-advisor.html --BlueMars 22:04, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
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Could someone tell me why we have two locations for the news? --From Andoria with Love 20:02, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- The template is superfluous, it can be merged into the news panel. --Bp 21:15, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
- One's for the Bush lovers, the other is for the rest of us. No, one's for the real news and the other is for the fake news al-a Siddig in BSG...--Babaganoosh 21:19, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
News of 19 May
Shouldn't the news be somewhat related more directly to canon - as when ST actors are mentioned even on other shows, etc. - and/or to canon-derived material, such as books, video games and so on? The news about the ST-themed apartment seems a bit too general to me, since no one involved somehow with ST is related to the event. -- Gabriel O. Brum 18:45, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- I was kinda wondering about that myself... but apparently someone thinks it's news. :P --From Andoria with Love 22:03, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
- The guy was featured in Trekkies 2. It's related enough, IMO:TOOTM. --Bp 22:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, tell me about stretches... Anyway, it probably won't hurt much. :) -- Gabriel O. Brum 03:52, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
RSS
Are there any possibility of getting these news in RSS or email? --ReCover 17:29, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
Wtf
How about just "who played Commodore Stone" not "the actor known to Trekkies for playing Commodore Stone".
Deep Space Nine Virgin 1 launch
Could someone add the info from this? The channel's biggest puller last night was Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, which picked up 226,000 viewers and a 1.2% share. [1] -- DS9 Forever 12:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
McNeill directing Samantha Who
Could someone please add that Robert Duncan McNeill is directing the pilot episode of Samantha Who? premiering tonight? It should note that he was Russ' Voyager co-star. Thanks. --From Andoria with Love
Star Trek: The Continuing Mission
Could someone add that the independent Star Trek audio Production, "Star Trek: The Continuing Mission" (www.continuingmission.com) reports the pilot episode "Ghost Ship" is wrapped and is fully ready to premier on on Christmas Day 2007.
While you reading this it is also note worthy that this production has not been added to the "non-canon" productions page here on Memory-Alpha.--SebastianProoth 16:04, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know what precedent there is for putting a fan production on the news, give me a few minutes to look at the archive and see if we have had that stuff before. As for your "noting" that it has not been added to the "non-canon productions", as we told you on Forum:Star Trek: The Continuing Mission, that isn't going to happen until you get what we consider "non-canon status" by receiving licensing from Paramount. Until then, you aren't even non-canon, you are fan production. A very good one, perhaps, I haven't had a chance to look at your stuff, but fan none the less. --OuroborosCobra talk 16:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- The only fan productions listed in the news are ones that feature Trek people. For example, the only mention of New Voyages is in relation to George Takei appearing in one episode. The mentions of OGaM are due to Tim Russ' involvement (among others). -- Sulfur 16:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
Our pilot episode guest stars Lawrence Montaigne as a Romulan Commander.--SebastianProoth 16:55, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
- In my opinion, the only fanon works the news should cover are those high-end fan productions that have been getting a lot of press – namely, New Voyages and Of Gods and Men. If we announced every single fan production, it would be a bit overboard, methinks. But that's just my opinion. --From Andoria with Love 19:25, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
January 6, 2008
He was protesting China's support of Myanmar's military junta. --Orlando Rays 16:13, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
- That seems more accurate, since Burma (Myanmar) actually is ruled by a "military junta", and China is not. --OuroborosCobra talk 20:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
startrek.com all got fired. It can't be true that the teaser will be there. 76.200.154.37 02:01, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- The teaser won't be at startrek.com, a link to the film site will be at startrek.com. And even though the team was fired, CBS still has people working on it. --From Andoria with Love 02:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
Spoiler photo from new movie
Can we please take down the spoiler photo from the new movie? We seem to have a policy of keeping spoiler information from unreleased products in the single article on that product. It is one thing to have the actor announcements and such, but a screenshot from the new movie to me is taking it to far. We don't need a picture spoiler to report on the new trailer. In addition, the presence of it on the main page is being used as an argument for its addition to USS Enterprise (NCC-1701). Perhaps we should even consider removing spoiler type information (even text) from this panel, and instead having a link her to another article with news style updates on the new film? --OuroborosCobra talk 22:26, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- We could remove it... if the teaser were an unreleased product. Remember:
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to released material only. The teaser was released midnight on January 18th. According to our policies, it's free game. As for the Enterprise article, however, since the teaser isn't really a canon production, the info from the teaser should only be added in that article's background section. --From Andoria with Love 01:36, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, since the spoiler warning is not posted on the Main Page, which is likely to be the first stop for visitors, I've removed the image. --From Andoria with Love 01:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- I actually intentionally slimmed down the description of the teaser too, because the original described it second by second (essentially), and figured that it makes sense to let people enjoy it on their own.
- Also, in terms of the images and things that happened in the teaser... just because it has been released doesn't make it canon. Why, you ask? Who says that any of that footage will even be in the final movie? Maybe they put that together to signify that things were under construction. Ya know? -- Sulfur 01:51, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Shran, come on. You know that teaser is material for an upcoming product, for the movie. Would you have allowed screencaps from episode previews for Star Trek: Enterprise and articles based on those previews before the episode aired? No. --OuroborosCobra talk 01:57, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- RE: Sulfur -- I never said the teaser was canon, I said info on the teaser can be added to the background section of the Enterprise article.
- RE: Cobra -- The teaser is a released product, and the scene depicted in the teaser will likely not even be in the film. I wasn't around when Enterprise was still on the air, so I don't know how images from previews were handled. Would we accept them now? Not sure... doubt it, since they would be low-res, watermarked, etc. --From Andoria with Love 02:31, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Shran, I really can't believe what I am reading here. Are you telling me that the new Enterprise model seen in that teaser will not be in the new movie? Because otherwise, it is a spoiler of what will be in the new movie. I don't care if it isn't the precise frame in the teaser or not. Hell, it is a spoiler that the Enteprise will even be in the movie at all. --OuroborosCobra talk 02:48, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm not sure about this either. The image is a bit much, if you put yourself in the mindset of an archivist who doesn't want to know any of the plot details of the movie (it is *possible* that the E might not appear, but the fact that it was in the teaser points towards an appearance).
- The image is on the Star Trek page (which has a big honking spoiler notice on the top) and has been removed from the main page. The aforementioned archivist would notably avoid the page(s) (Star Trek, and to a much lesser extent the related actor and production personnel articles) that would have spoiler info. Some months ago, I edited the Spock page to list that Zachary Quinto will be playing him in the upcoming film. This was removed as a spoiler and is (I believe should be at least) followed on all non-real world articles.
- I believe the understandably small mention of the teaser's "plot" (the fact of the Enterprise's appearance) should be also removed from the Main Page, perhaps linking to a description of the teaser that an archivist can choose to click or not. Because of what happened on the Spock page, and my subsequent understanding of it, I don't think any Star Trek (film) info should be added to background sections in *non real world* articles (possibly not until December 25th).
- As for the Enterprise images, I *was* around for a short time when Enterprise still aired (admittedly mostly as a reader, and not contributor). No images were added to the episode articles (even though there were some released beforehand), the episode articles themselves were protected to prevent people from adding (generally non-released) spoiler information, and articles were reverted with spoiler information. I don't think we need to protect Star Trek (film) at this point, since there's virtually no non-officially released plot details, I do think we should be careful not to alienate archivists who might want to wait 11 months.--Tim Thomason 05:05, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- For the record, I meant the actual scene depicted in the trailer likely won't be in the movie. The Enterprise definitely will. However, if you think a teaser trailer that has already been seen by an estimated $16.75 million worth of people (not counting those who saw Cloverfield on Saturday and those who watched the bootleg version) is a spoiler, then by all means... ;) Speaking of spoilers, though, how about all those casting announcements that were posted (Chris Pine signs on as James T. Kirk; Leonard Nimoy returning as Spock, etc.) Those might be considered spoilers by some, yet no one had a problem with them. That's probably because they're not really spoilers... they reveal little, if anything, about the plot. The filmmakers themselves have kept the plot tightly under wraps, but they don't hesitate to say that the film features the Enterprise and the original series crew. This much has been revealed in news sources worldwide, and the teaser trailer is being viewed, as we speak, by millions of people worldwide. It was also previously announced in the news section that the Enterprise would be appearing in both the film and the teaser, so that much has already been "spoiled." I do agree that information such as characters, etc. should be kept within production-type pages, but the fact that the Enterprise will be appearing in the new film is now known by millions thanks to the new trailer. In other words, the filmmakers themselves, chose to reveal this little spoiler to the general public. That's just my take on this whole thing. --From Andoria with Love 07:03, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Shran, all a teaser is is a released spoiler. As for the actor stuff, look above at my first comment in this discussion, where I talk about moving all of the movie news to a separate page with a link to it on the main page. Besides, as you already know, Memory Alpha does treat actor announcements and stuff as spoilers. That is why they have been removed from character articles, our spoiler policy. By the way, even being shown at Cloverfield doesn't make it any less of a spoiler. When I go to movies with my sister, for example, she covers her eyes and ears during many previews. Why? Because they are spoilers. --OuroborosCobra talk 07:09, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- I know, Cobra, and I agree that it is a spoiler. Just saying it's one millions already know, is all. But what I'm mainly talking about is revealing this stuff on the news section. No one had problems with the casting announcements, but nobody wants to hear about the Enterprise appearing in the teaser. How is one more of a spoiler than the other? --From Andoria with Love 07:12, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
I'll say it again more clearly with no ambiguity. I don't want to see the actor announcements. Can't use that now. I am making it an issue if that helps. I've even made a suggestion on how to deal with the whole thing, so that we actually start following our spoiler policy again. --OuroborosCobra talk 07:14, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- Ahh, ok. I did not get that from the above at all, lol! However, since I'm normally the one who adds the casting announcements, I guess I'll stop until this whole thing clears up. 'Tis a shame, because there are at a few people appearing in the movie who will be announced in the coming weeks (one has already been announced). Maybe if we just give the actor and not the character? --From Andoria with Love 07:31, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
We could do that, or we could have a separate article specifically for movie news announcements (done similarly to the News panel) that is linked to at the top of the News panel. Or we could do both. That would be awesome, I think. --OuroborosCobra talk 07:37, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
- that could work. I would go for that, but let's see what others have to say. On a side note, I now see where you suggested removing such text from the panel. I either missed that or misread it, sorry. --From Andoria with Love 08:25, 20 January 2008 (UTC)