Talk: Julian Bashir/archive

Revision as of 18:00, 14 December 2007

Is there a reason for the '???' next to 'Great-Grandmother'? -- Mjwilco 23:45, 16 Aug 2004 (CEST)

We don't know her first name. "Trials and Tribble-ations" just gives us her surname. -- Michael Warren | Talk 23:53, Aug 16, 2004 (CEST)

Then it seems more professional to note this textually rather than have the question marks. -- Mjwilco 02:02, 17 Aug 2004 (CEST)

I've added the {{pna-incomplete}} for obvious reasons: there's absolutely nothing listed here about any of his tenure on Deep Space 9. It just stops at his med school graduation. | THOR 19:15, 9 Feb 2005 (CET)

Bashir on Enterprise

Wasn't their an episode where Bashir appeared in TNG?

Bashir appeared in TNG: Birthright, Part I-Rebelstrike2005 20:19, 17 Feb 2005 (GMT)

Dax and Section 31

There is nothing here about his relationships/how he liked either Jadzia or Ezri Dax. Also there is no mention of Section 31.

First posting?

Was DS9 his first posting from the Medical Academy?

Yes, this was mentioned several times, most notably in "Emissary" and "Explorers". --Gvsualan 03:02, 1 Mar 2005 (GMT)

Latest revision

That last edit looks pretty good, but it needs to be checked for spelling/grammar errors (this is pretty much a reminder to myself should no one else decide to take on the task soon). --From Andoria with Love 02:58, 30 Dec 2005 (UTC)

Probably should have read this first - there were so many spelling errors I took it upon myself to fix them all. I think I got all of them, however there is a section which uses the word 'affliction' - I'm unsure as to whether that word is correctly used there or not, as I've never been a big fan of DS9 and haven't seen that particular episode. Anyway, I think I've caught most of them. Lukasa 21:10, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Second name

Just a quick question, in wich episode is his second name Subatoi mentioned? Is it "Doctor Bashir, I Presume?"? Just wanna know. Thanks in advance for the info :) ~ Trent_Easton ~ ^talk 20:13, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

The episode in which Bashir's middle name is mentioned is "The Wire". --From Andoria with Love 21:06, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

Ah yes, thank you! :) ~ Trent_Easton ~ ^talk 10:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Cold-blooded murder?

I just reviewed Crossover, in which Julian murders mirror Odo without much hesitation. Although forced by his situation aboard Terok Nor, I do think this act is severely out-of-character for our dear doctor at that point in time. Any thoughts? -- Bakabaka 14:41, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

I (one who'd know) would hardly call the young Doctor's deed cold-blooded, much less murder. The record indicates self-defense. "Do or die", so to speak. SwishyGarak 20:35, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Good point. I hadn't seen mirror Odo reach for his phaser when I last saw the ep. Thanks! -- Bakabaka 09:17, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Background clarification

The Background note about Bashir's supposedly changing age is flat wrong. Whatever the Emissary script might've said about Bashir being in his mid-twenties, the dialogue as aired gave his age as 27. Emissary was in early 2369, so Bashir's birth in 2341 is consistent as long as his birthday falls in the latter half of the calendar year. The dialogue couldn't be clearer. Sisko was ribbing Dax about flirting with Bashir. Sisko: "He's a little young for you, isn't he?" Dax: "He's 27; I'm 28." Sisko: "328, maybe." I think the Background note should be removed completely. Kentonindy 01:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

Well, by all means, let's do be bold, shan't we? I'll get to it. In fairness: While the original author might have had some information about the script specifying something that "warranted" what edit we could otherwise easily mistake for unmitigated nitpckery, all I know is what was said onscreen, which renders our canon nit-free after all. SwishyGarak 03:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Jules vs. Julian

The article currently states that Jules was an affectionate nickname for Julian Bashir. That's not the impression I got from the episode, however. Julian not only shouts to his father that he stopped calling himself Jules when he was 15, but also that Jules died when he was 6 and that he is Julian. I have always interpreted this as a reference to Julian having changed his name (or at least adopted a different name to be addressed with) to distance himself from Jules, who did no longer exist after his genetic engineering. The dialogue seems to imply that Julian sees himself and Jules almost as two separate beings, each with its own name, which wouldn't really make sense if Jules was just a nickname that he'd been carrying for 9 more years after his treatments on Adigeon Prime. Any thoughts on this? -- Defstar 18:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

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 The Background note about Bashir's supposedly changing age is flat wrong.  Whatever the Emissary script might've said about Bashir being in his mid-twenties, the dialogue as aired gave his age as 27.  Emissary was in early 2369, so Bashir's birth in 2341 is consistent as long as his birthday falls in the latter half of the calendar year.  The dialogue couldn't be clearer.  Sisko was ribbing Dax about flirting with Bashir.  Sisko: "He's a little young for you, isn't he?"  Dax: "He's 27; I'm 28."  Sisko: "328, maybe."  I think the Background note should be removed completely.  [[User:Kentonindy|Kentonindy]] 01:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
 :Well, by all means, let's do be bold, shan't we? I'll get to it. In fairness: While the original author might have had some information about the ''script'' specifying something that "warranted" what edit we could otherwise easily mistake for unmitigated nitpckery, all ''I'' know is what was said ''onscreen'', which renders our canon nit-free after all. [[User:SwishyGarak|SwishyGarak]] 03:48, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
+== Jules vs. Julian ==
+The article currently states that Jules was an affectionate nickname for Julian Bashir. That's not the impression I got from the episode, however. Julian not only shouts to his father that he stopped calling himself Jules when he was 15, but also that Jules ''died'' when he was 6 and that ''he'' is ''Julian''. I have always interpreted this as a reference to Julian having ''changed'' his name (or at least adopted a different name to be addressed with) to distance himself from Jules, who did no longer exist after his genetic engineering. The dialogue seems to imply that Julian sees himself and Jules almost as two separate beings, each with its own name, which wouldn't really make sense if Jules was just a nickname that he'd been carrying for 9 more years after his treatments on Adigeon Prime. Any thoughts on this? -- [[User:Defstar|Defstar]] 18:00, 14 December 2007 (UTC)