Memory Alpha
Memory Alpha
No edit summary
Line 18: Line 18:
   
 
[[User:31dot|31dot]] ([[User talk:31dot|talk]]) 21:57, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
 
[[User:31dot|31dot]] ([[User talk:31dot|talk]]) 21:57, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
  +
  +
The Flyer is apparently on its side resting at an angle, but the candle flames are not straight up.[[Special:Contributions/67.242.163.134|67.242.163.134]] 19:13, August 17, 2013 (UTC)

Revision as of 19:13, 17 August 2013

Talk page help
Maintenance links
  • T: Muse
  • A: VOY
  • N: 6x22
  • P: 40840-244
  • C: 600
  • D: 26
  • M: April
  • Y: 2000
Memory Alpha talk pages are for improving the article only.
For general discussion, please visit Memory Alpha's Discussions feature, or join the chat on Discord.


Aristophanes

B'Elanna meets Aristophanes. The writers clearly had in mind some of Aristophanes' anti-war drama at the time of the Pelopponesian War (ca 400 bc). -- Craig Goodrich 68.58.135.168 22:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

B'Elanna's rank vs. position

I have a rather nitpicking question, the answer of which will be that the writers can do whatever they want, I'm sure. That being said, B'Elanna mentioned ordering Harry into the Flyer's escape pod. However in previous episodes (Future's End Part 1 being one example), Kim took command of Voyager because I speculate, he was a bridge officer, despite only being an ensign. And in other episodes as well, Kim seems to be next in command, likely because he's a bridge officer. But in this episode, B'Elanna pulled rank on him. Is there a valid reason why Kim outranks B'lanna? I know he attended the Academy and was commissioned as an officer, but the date of commissioning only matters when dealing with those of equal rank; B'Elanna was a lt. jg.; Kim's an ensign. The commission date is irrelevant; the lowest ranked lt. j.g outranks any ensign, no matter the position of the officer. Rank comes first.The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.225.7.172.


  • She's not the only one that outranks him while he's the bridge duty officer. There are numerous lieutenants on Voyager shown and referred to throughout the series. However, if you recall from TNG's "Disaster", a lieutenant was shown as the bridge duty officer there too. She didn't outrank LaForge, but was given the responsibility of watching the ship for that shift. This kind of thing is shown elsewhere in naval fiction, so I assume it is how ships really work. Watch "Master and Commander". In the opening scene a midshipman is working the night shift while the captain and most other officers are sleeping. That doesn't mean he outranks them, he's just minding the store. As soon as something important comes up, the captain is summoned. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.76.69.104.

Removed

The following was removed by an anon user today; I presume because it is uncited:

  • Kelis's notion that Captain Janeway would throw away her spear rather than destroy the Borg Queen and claim she would not kill harkens back to TOS: "Arena" where Captain Kirk tossed away his weapon rather than kill the Gorn captain and told the Metrons that he would not kill. Furthermore, Janeway's belief that all that would exist between the Borg and Voyager after all had perished would be their hatred, similar to the impassioned plea that Kirk made to Kang in TOS: "Day of the Dove".

31dot (talk) 21:57, January 3, 2013 (UTC)

The Flyer is apparently on its side resting at an angle, but the candle flames are not straight up.67.242.163.134 19:13, August 17, 2013 (UTC)