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::I would had expected an aircraft carrier to had been commanded by a [[commodore]]. [[User:Federation|Federation]] 04:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 
::I would had expected an aircraft carrier to had been commanded by a [[commodore]]. [[User:Federation|Federation]] 04:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 
:::Fleets are commanded by admirals (not commodores), but the carrier itself is under a commanding officer who holds the rank of captain. [[User:LCARS|LCARS]] 01:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
 
:::Fleets are commanded by admirals (not commodores), but the carrier itself is under a commanding officer who holds the rank of captain. [[User:LCARS|LCARS]] 01:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
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::::Task forces in the Royal Navy, though, are often commanded by Commodores (I believe that the multi-country Combined Task Force 58 in the Persian Gulf is or was recently commanded by a British Commodore, and that Combined Task Force 150 had a different RN Commodore in command until just recently, when a French Rear Admiral took over). However, it's worth noting that Commodore is a real rank in the Royal Navy (1-star flag officer, just like in ENT/TOS/TMP), whereas it is only a title in the US Navy nowadays. Again, though, carriers are commanded by Captains in the RN too. - [[User:Mada101|Mada101]] 16:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

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PNA-Incomplete

Page only contains the most superficial information, needs numerous TOS references, and beyond... --Gvsualan 09:06, 20 Feb 2005 (GMT)

I have added some more depth to the events of ST2 and ST3, if you feel this helps the article, please let me know, and I would be happy to continue in a similar fashion. -- umrguy42 06:42, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

This is still pending. There is nothing from Star Trek 5 and 6, and the rest of this TOS references needs a good go through. --Alan del Beccio 17:16, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Captain?

I haven't seen Star Trek Generations in ages, but I heard that the reporters on the Enterprise-B referred to him as Captain Chekov. I do know that he appeared with a Commander rank pin. If someone could verify this (it occurs within the first 10-20 minutes of the movie), that would be greatly appreciated.--Tim Thomason 07:30, 12 Aug 2005 (UTC)

Makes me wonder if it was one of the female reporters played by Koenig's wife that said that .. anywho, if he was addressed as "captain" while wearing commander insignia, it means that he has command of a ship somewhere. fascinating...
Just for kicks, i checked non-canon sources, which state Chekov would command the Potemkin and USS Cydonia in his career (Shatner/Reeves Stevens novels), the time of Generations would be shortly before he accepted a first officer position on Excelsior (Lost Era novels). -- Captain M.K. Barteltalk 14:57, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for kinda answering my 6 month old question. Remarkably, I just asked someone today without knowing of your response. My source watched the movie, and informed me that at no point is Chekov referred to as captain. So I was mistaken. Good thoughts on the matter though.--Tim Thomason 05:06, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Just so we're clear: No, Tim, he is not referred to as a captain. ;) --Your Source 05:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC
Apropos of the subject of Chekov as captain, I found it odd that in ST:III when Admiral Kirk says the Enterprise is to be decommissioned, Chekov says, "Vill ve get another ship?" Chekov speaks as if he's a member of the Enterprise crew. Shouldn't he technically be a member of the crew of whatever ship succeeded the Reliant -- and wouldn't he have been a candidate to be captain of that ship, given the death of Terrell, the man he served as first officer? The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.168.150.118 (talk).
I'm not certain, but he may only have been on temporary assignment to the Reliant, just like Data was on temporary assignment to Ba'ku in Insurrection. If not, we can assume that Admiral Kirk used his admiral powers after the destruction of the Reliant and had his duty assignment changed to the Enterprise. --OuroborosCobra talk 03:43, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Revisited

Bringing this back up, I have recently re-watched Generations and Chekov is indeed referred to as 'Captain'. It is at time index 2.58, when Kirk, Scotty and Chekov exit the turbolift for the first time. The grey-suited male reporter on the right says 'Captain Chekov, what are the most significant changes of...' and is then cut off. Just so ya all know :-) --Mada101 01:58, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

Something one must remember, an officer in command of a vessel, no matter what his rank, is referred to as "Captain." Sure, this is just speculation, but couldn't he have been in command of a small vessel with the rank of Commander? Of course then one has to explain why he wasn't wearing command division colors....Ssaint04 06:42, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
other captains have skipped their command colors before -- Dax wore blue while captaining Defiant in the War, Krasnovsky, Scotty, and don't forget several non-command commodores and admirals seen. -- Captain M.K.B. 13:04, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
Because Dax was still a Science Officer, first and foremost. Her COing the Defiant was a temporary assignment. And why would Pavel be called "Captain" but wear Commander's insignia, unless he was COing a vessel? Ssaint04 19:06, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

"Captain Chekov"

I removed notes on his "Captaincy" to background information based in part on this diff by Captainmike. After investigating why he would "change his mind" on this issue, I was convinced by others that even though the phrase "Captain Chekov" appears, it shouldn't be taken any more literally than "Lieutenant O'Brien" or the appearance of "Lieutenant junior grade Data." Chekov was referred to in script as "Commander" and onscreen (via rank pin), both of which (in my opinion) supersede the one-off reference to "Captain Chekov." This page suggests that Koenig may have coached the actors into calling him "Captain" beforehand, and that the editors worked to rid the film of those references (both Mada101 above and Majorthomme off-of-MA agree that they failed). I like calling him "Captain," but my opinion doesn't matter.--Tim Thomason 02:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

If we're to treat these characters as pseudo-real people then there is a real risk that sometimes their careers have been over egged by the fan community. For example, poor old Chekhov would most likely have been passed over for further promotion within Starfleet for having had his ship, the Reliant, taken away from him. I know Kirk did often lose his ship but he always got it back. Certainly, any historical navy has tended to take a very dim view of people they have felt unfit to command a ship even to the point of what might be considered minor offences such as grounding a ship and captains and first officers have often found their careers similar grounded. Chekhov might have continued to serve as part of Kirk's loyal band but beyond that might have found further positions hard to come by and to have a ship named after him unlikely. -- Richard Stevenson

Corrections

Chekov believes, Chekov believes...

The page constantly assumes that Chekov actually believed his Russian "historical facts"--perhaps it should be rephrased to something along the lines of, "believed or acted as if he believed," or some such. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.96.225.94 (talk).

I've changed all of the "believed" to "claimed"; though if it bothered you so much you could have done it yourself. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 155.68.108.245 (talk).

Warp Earp

"(...)place them in a frontier setting during the time of Warp Earp".

Shouldn't it be "Wyatt Earp"? The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.29.35.166 (talk).

Examination at Mercy Hospital

Chekov was taken into emergency surgery at Mercy Hospital where he was diagnosed with a tearing of the middle meningeal artery—narrowly escaping a endoscopic examination.

Fundoscopic, not endoscopic. The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.68.42.118 (talk).

Cyrillic

would his name be rendered "Павел Андреевич Че́ков"? and is this relevant to MA? -- Captain M.K.B. 17:59, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

I don't know if the Cyrillic is right or not, but I don't think it's relevant, unless Chekov has mentioned using Cyrillic or his name has been seen in Cyrillic (obviously). Just because he is Russian doesn't mean he uses Cyrillic, we don't know what has gone on in Moscow in the next 300 years. They used Cyrillic in the Baikonur Cosmodrome in 2363 or so, but that's it (as far as I know).--Tim Thomason 18:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

USS Chekov

Is it a certain fact that there was a starship named after him in the XXIV c.? Some people say it might be russian playwright Anton Chekhov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anton_Chekhov). Since there is little starships named after Starfleet personnel (I can conjure up only USS Archer at the moment), it might be worth checking. Greetings, The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.29.60.149 (talkcontribs).

There is a picture, granted special permission by Star Trek production staff, to be shown at http://ex-astris-scientia.org -- it shows the model of the USS Chekov and it does indeed say "U.S.S. CHEKOV" on the ship's hull. It does not say "Chekhov". Thanks for checking. -- Captain M.K.B. 15:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Which episodes?

Does anyone feel up to the task of cataloging which episodes Chekov appears in? Its been done for Leslie and others here, but not poor Chekov. Interestingly, Leslie was probably in more episodes than Chekov. Maybe we could separate episodes such as Wink of an Eye where he only appears in stock footage. SlowLoris 02:27, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

Chekov's position

I also find Chekov's regression from First Officer of Reliant to Security Chief of Enterprise odd. Its as if the writers just wanted us to forget he had a stint on Reliant. We will never know if its was a temporary assignment, but given his rank it fits. He was never demoted. The only character that I know of ever to be demoted on Star Trek is Kirk. When you look at it, after about ST:II ranks start to make no sense. The writers bend over backward to explain Kirk's return to command via various methods and eventually demotion, but why is Spock and Scotty, both Captains and equal in rank to kirk taking mesly jobs as subordinates. I guess that's loyalty. Federation 05:00, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

no, in current Navy ships an aircraft carrier usually has a captain as XO and a captain of flight ops -- the other captains must fall in line behind the captain with seniority, or the captain who has command. -- Captain M.K.B. 13:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
I would had expected an aircraft carrier to had been commanded by a commodore. Federation 04:37, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
Fleets are commanded by admirals (not commodores), but the carrier itself is under a commanding officer who holds the rank of captain. LCARS 01:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
Task forces in the Royal Navy, though, are often commanded by Commodores (I believe that the multi-country Combined Task Force 58 in the Persian Gulf is or was recently commanded by a British Commodore, and that Combined Task Force 150 had a different RN Commodore in command until just recently, when a French Rear Admiral took over). However, it's worth noting that Commodore is a real rank in the Royal Navy (1-star flag officer, just like in ENT/TOS/TMP), whereas it is only a title in the US Navy nowadays. Again, though, carriers are commanded by Captains in the RN too. - Mada101 16:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)