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I'm glad Archer has Porthos, and I'm surprised that more pets have not been on the future ships, such as in TNG and VOY, because pets are very good for people. They seem to be notably lacking in the idyllic future world, at least among Star Fleet officers.
 
I'm glad Archer has Porthos, and I'm surprised that more pets have not been on the future ships, such as in TNG and VOY, because pets are very good for people. They seem to be notably lacking in the idyllic future world, at least among Star Fleet officers.
   
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== How many dogs played Porthos and his mirror version? ==
 
== How many dogs played Porthos and his mirror version? ==
   
For that matter, were they male like Porthos was supposed to be?
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For that matter, were they male like Porthos was supposed to be?--[[User:Will Pittenger|Will]] 06:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

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I'm glad Archer has Porthos, and I'm surprised that more pets have not been on the future ships, such as in TNG and VOY, because pets are very good for people. They seem to be notably lacking in the idyllic future world, at least among Star Fleet officers.

Actually several officer's had pets on ships. Data had his cat Spot, Picard had his fish, O'Brien had a spider for a time (he also later inherited Bilbly's cat in "Honor Among Thieves"), and Janeway had a dog (she was left behind, perhaps because Voyager's original mission was only meant to last a few weeks). Lt. Aqiuel Uhnari in "Aquiel" had a dog (though it later turned out to be an alien creature in disguise).
A useful resource here is the article named Pets -- Captain Mike K. Barteltalk 19:01, 14 May 2005 (UTC)

Porthos in "Twilight"

Although we saw Porthos in "normal time" during "Twilight," supposedly there were scenes with him in the segments that took place 12 years later. Make-up artists added grey streaks to Breezy's fur to make Porthos look older. From what I've heard, these scenes were cut, and I was disappointed to see they were not included on the DVD.

Actually, we never even saw Porthos anywhere in the episode. In fact, I don't even think he was mentioned. It would have been cool to see him, though. I, too, was disappointed that no deleted scenes or commentaries were attached to that episode. I was also surprised, since that was one widely considered of the best episodes of the season. --From Andoria with Love 14:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Allow me to correct myself. We saw Porthos briefly on Archer's bed in the episode. My bad. :/ --From Andoria with Love 14:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)


Age

I find it rather hard to believe that Porthos was still alive by 2161. The dog was already at least a couple years old by the time Enterprise was launched on his mission, and beagles don't normally live much longer than 12 years. With all the cheese that Archer always fed him, it's hard to imagine that Porthos didn't develop serious health problems after a while. Perhaps Porthos's presence in "These Are the Voyages..." can be attributed to Riker taking liberties with history? I dunno, just a suggestion...--Antodav 04:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Whether it is believeable or not, the episode shows Porthos being alive, and that is what is therefore canon. It is more likely that veterinary science had developed enough to keep dogs alive longer. After all, Dr. Phlox was able to replace one of Porthos' organs with one of a reptile, something I believe is impossible today. Also, some breads of dog live longer than others. My own dog, for example, is 14 years old, and will probably live to be 18. --OuroborosCobra 04:24, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
Porthos was probably around 16 years old at the time of "These Are the Voyages..."; possibly a bit older. As OuroborosCobra stated above, there's no reason to believe that veterinary science hasn't improved along with human medicine. If many humans can live past the age of 100 in the 22nd century and beyond, I see no reason to believe why dogs can't live over 20 years. --From Andoria with Love 05:03, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Archer never stated Porthos' Age. He just told us, about his birth in that Porthos ep from the Second season, but he didn't give his age. Beagles are a small breed, and small breeds do reach 14-16 years nowadays already. Even if Porthos was 4 years by the time of Enterprise's launch, we have reason to believe he lived to the Founding of the Federation.

How many dogs played Porthos and his mirror version?

For that matter, were they male like Porthos was supposed to be?--Will 06:09, 10 August 2006 (UTC)