Talk:Quantum slipstream drive

Dauntless Engine Room

Does anyone have a screencap of the Slipstream engine in the Dauntless' Engine room? It would be a good addition here, I think. -Captain MAJ ^=/\=|**** 16:34, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

I agree about the image capture. I have one, but its not the greatest quality since it is from a Shockwave flash source. See [1]. A real TV or DVD screen cap would be appreciated. I will upload when I can in the appropriate Dauntless section. I think there is a picture of Voyager's implementation, possibly in (VOY: "Timeless"). vorik111 12:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC) ---- Image added, enjoy! --vorik111 22:56, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Dauntless: Production vs. Test

Assumption is production quality technology due to the mention that Arturis was able to acquire ship without much difficulty, indicating relative abundance. Compare to acquiring helicopter technology in the real world. Highly expensive, but not improbable if your city is being destroyed.' vorik111 12:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Arturis didn't seem to have any problems with the ship, that is, if a prototype usually has bugs. This is a really hot technology, if the feds ever perfect it and are able to maintain the slipstream for a least a few hours at a time, then again a short time later, they would be able to explore galaxies with it, (provided it can get through the galactic barrier ok) How many light years an hour is 1.6 million times lightspeed, guess the answer would need to be written in scientific notation, I don't have a calculator that can do it, unless I divide a light year 1.6 million times I can find out how many light years it can travel in a year.

Also, wouldn't the Borg now have it, since they assimilated Arcturis's homeworld and species? Provided they had these ships there.

I wonder why they couldn't just have done what Harry Kim did say, a few more times, to get to earth (in the alternate future before he altered it, they did get back to Earth) the only reason they crashed was because they were unlucky enough to hit that ice planet, but why would that be dangerous, if when you emerge from slipstream you are traveling at sublight speeds, since space is mostly just space. Vortaborg 03:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

The reason it happened is that something about their system didn't work - probably related to guidance. It wasn't that a rogue ice planet unluckily crashed them. The reason to never try again is that it didn't work in the first place. --TribbleFurSuit 19:49, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

I just rewatched the episode, they had to land or the ship would have been destroyed, but still, they could done a few more jumps and have done exactly what they did before. Go into slipstream, travel for a little while, then use the calculations to terminate the slipstream, and do those 3 things a few more times. The jump they did shaved 10 years off their journey. Vortaborg 03:17, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

Eh...maybe it was too risky - or the writers didn't want to do that because if they allowed it then they could just do what you said...spend a month fixing their ship then do it all again...poof - no show. — Morder 05:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)

The slipstream drive required Benamite to work. 24.69.182.153 07:43, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Arturis' acquisition of Dauntless?

We have: '... that was tested for production by the industries of Arturis's home world'.

Does he state on screen that it was developed and tested on his homeworld? Isn't it possible he could have traded/invented the technology himself? I think it should be changed to something like:

'... that had been presumably tested by Arturis before contacting Voyager.'

How does that sound? --AnonyQ 00:32, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

We don't presume anything. If we don't know, then leave it blank. The answer to your question is that nothing was stated onscreen about where the ship and its technology came from or how Arturis got it. --TribbleFurSuit 01:39, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. I wasn't suggesting that we write 'Arturis traded for it' or anything along those lines, I was just demonstrating the other possibilities that mean we could not speculate. --AnonyQ 03:57, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

How does this sound:

Dauntless's quantum slipstream technology was implemented with that ship in mind. This was a non-Federation implementation and the drive was previously unknown to the crew of Voyager. The original location of construction and development of technology of Dauntless and its quantum drive remain unknown. (VOY: "Hope and Fear")

The episode did not mention if this was a test or prototype ship. See Talk for discussion.

--AnonyQ 04:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

By "demonstrating [...] other possibilities", you are speculating, unless someone onscreen said it was a possibility.

Beyond that:

Your proposal still contains an awful lot of "we don't know", in which case, MA has nothing to say.

This is, as far as I know, totally imaginary: "Dauntless's quantum slipstream technology was implemented with that ship in mind".

And finally "See Talk for discussion" has no place in the encyclopedic area.

I think the thing to do here is to just remove the part that drew your attention in the first place, "... that was tested for production by the industries of Arturis's home world", and leave it at that. --TribbleFurSuit 17:08, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Okay, that does make sense now. Sorry about that, and thanks. --AnonyQ 22:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing that. Sounds much better!– vorik111 03:06, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Sovereign-class

Can the Sovereign class use Quantum slipstream drive?.--24.131.197.142 00:19, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Have you ever seen it used outside of Voyager? --OuroborosCobra ^talk 01:41, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Yes,In 2380 the Vesta class Federation starship USS Aventine was among the first Starfleet vessels to be fitted with a quantum slipstream drive.In 2381 following the defeat of the Borg, Starfleet was beginning to install quantum slipstream drives on its vessels.--24.131.197.142 11:49, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Is the Sovereign class compatible with quantum slipstream drive?. Don't give me something like Have you ever seen it used outside of Voyager?.--24.131.197.142 11:54, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

You haven't seen that, you read it in a book. As a canon Trek wiki, we only deal with what was seen on the show.--31dot 12:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

Voyager managed to travel nearly 10,000 light years

I believe it's more accurate to say that Voyager managed to travel almost double that figure. In The Raven, it is stated that Borg space was already 10,000 light-years behind their position at that time. Also, in Hope and Fear they stated that, within that hour in slipstream, they got to within 2 minutes from Borg space, turned, and then 300 light years past their original position. This says to me that traveled almost 10,000 light years plus another almost 10,000 light years. True, it's stated that the Borg expanded beyond what their border was at the time Voyager got past Borg territory, but it's also true the Voyager traveled beyond where they were at that time. Unless there's some specific dialog which I'm forgetting...? --NME 08:11, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

==How fast is slipstream (enhanced kind seen in Timeless)

Let's recap here. Correct me If I'm wrong. Voyager traveled:

1. 10,000 light years in the Gift when Kes pushed them that far. 2. Another 10,000 in Night when they went through a wormhole. 3. 10,000 in Dark Frontier, when they used a transwarp coil they got from a borg sphere, before the coil gave out and they couldn't use it anymore. 4. 10,000 in Timeless when they used the enhances quantum slipstream drive.

So, 40K total with these 4 big jumps. They were originally 70K away light years when they were transported by the Caretaker. And, I'm not exactly sure what how far they went with regular warp, but they can move 9 light years a day with it. The problem is we don't know how much of their time passes between episodes. Though, time does seem to pass at the same rate. For example, it was 1993 when DS9 started, and 3 years before that (1990 our time) was the battle of Wolf 359 (Emissary)

When they use the slipstream drive the first time, they almost get to the Alpha Quandrant just before they crash. Now, if that really was just the time we saw while Chakotay and Harry were trying to steady Voyager with the Delta Flyer (Usually when a slip flies for an hour, they don't show the whole hour) then doesn't it mean their enhanced version of Quantum Slipstream comes out to something like 2 million plus light years an hour?