Yeah, we all know how it is T'Pol Due to Enterprise, but I know it was popular to say it was Spock. I belive I saw an argument someplace on this site it was never said that He was indeed the first Vulcan in Starfleet. Does someone know where it is? I can't seem to find it, if it wasn't this site, no biggie (Though it should be researched and see if it's true or not if it wasn't this site) Thanks for your time. -- Terran Officer 09:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well, if it was said, it is easy to explain how it is not an inconsistency with T'Pol. She was the first vulcan inthe Earth Starfleet. If Spock was indeed said to also be the first, then he was the first in the Federation Starfleet. We've used that distinction a dozen other times, after all.
- Off the top of my head, though, I cannot remember where this was said in canon. I know it is a common belief, as you said, but just can't think where it comes from. --OuroborosCobra talk 09:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Yeah, that would have been my argument for that (As it would be for the NX-01's name, but that's another topic) --Terran Officer 09:40, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
- Alright, I finally found it, the mention. It was actually on Wikiepdia, maybe it should be mentioned here as well?
- Many fans believe that Spock is the first Vulcan to join Starfleet, a fact that appears to be contradicted by the series Star Trek: Enterprise; in fact, there is no reference to Spock being the first. It has been suggested that he is the first to graduate from Starfleet Academy, however. Note: some official documentation from Paramount such as the startrek.com website support the first-Vulcan-in-Starfleet theory, as do some original Trek novels, however these sources are not considered canon: only what is shown on screen is considered canon in the Star Trek universe.
- Just a thought... --Terran Officer 19:42, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
- Well a reasonable extrapolation just from TOS itself is that Spock isn't the first. TOS: "The Immunity Syndrome" establishes that the USS Intrepid (23rd century) was crewed entirely by Vulcans. It can be logically inferred that at least its captain must've been older than Spock. Taking into account Enterprise as well, though, it seems clear to me that the act of establishing the Federation and a combined Starfleet would've meant immediate transfers of commission by those serving on what Vulcan ships remained after T'Pau's reforms. I think it can be safely assumed that T'Pol would've been immediately commissioned into Federation Starfleet, perhaps on Day 1 of its existence. I would also tend to think that Star Trek (XI) might very well weigh in on this matter. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 01:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Nowhere in the TOS episodes was it ever said or even implied that Spock was the first Vulcan Starfleet anything. What was stated in the show was that Spock was considered to be the best first officer in the fleet. --68.183.86.95 16:42, 9 November 2007 (UTC)