Talk:The Best of Both Worlds, Part II (episode)

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DS9: Emissary ref

why we should mention Saratoga and Sisko at all. The episode makes no references whatsoever to them. They ought to be removed. BlockProofed User 15:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Agreed, it shouldn't be in the summary; rather, it should be simply stated as background information. --From Andoria with Love 15:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

Several issues

• On the main bridge, Shelby orders Cartano and Gleason to the battle bridge. The two people seen to respond are a command division male and science division female. However, in the following battle bridge scenes, the officer referred to as Gleason by Riker is now wearing a gold uniform as is the only other female shown.
• After Riker orders Shelby to initiate her plan to separate the saucer section, Shelby orders Crusher and two other members of the bridge crew to the battle bridge. However the two extras, Cartano and Gleason, do not head with her to the dedicated battle bridge turbolift, instead making for a door near the Observation Lounge entrance at the rear of the bridge.
• This episode is one of two instances in which someone outside of the Enterprise's regular crew becomes first officer. In this episode it's Commander Shelby, and in Season 5's "Conundrum," it's the impostor, Commander MacDuff.
• When Riker is walking from the bridge to the lab where Locutus is being kept, his hair style changes from parted on the side to slicked back.
• Why does Riker even consider Worf for the position of First Officer? He's a fine officer, certainly, and would have been capable. But Data was next in line. For Worf to have been named First Officer, he would need two jumps in rank. Even promoted to Lieutenant Commander, Data would still outrank him by seniority. It would have been inappropriate for Data to have to start taking orders from a lower ranking officer.
• The same sequence, Riker walks into Data's lab while discussing the selfdestruct. Beverly then pipes up with "there's no way of knowing what the destruction of the Borg ship will do to him." Has she suddenly become psychic? How did she know what Riker was talking about before he opened the door to Data's lab? There was no indication of an open channel, or any communication with Beverly during the conversation.
• During the final part of this episode, Riker is seen discussing the virtues of exploring the Borg cube, and disabling the autodestruct sequence. Apart from the fact that the cube explodes moments after Riker decides to let it do so, how could Shelby and company hope to disable something they have absolutely no experience with? --Reginald Barclay 15:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

• Regarding humans assimilated from Wolf 359; could the Borg not have dispatched a smaller vessel from the cube (off-screen) in the time between Wolf 359 and entering Sol system? That would explain how the humans would have ended up as part of the collective even though the only Borg ship in the battle was destroyed.

Time's Arrow

* The events of TNG: "Time's Arrow, Part II" would suggest that when Guinan visits Riker in the ready room, she knows that Picard would eventually be rescued from the Borg, which is why she tells him to let Picard go, since he hadn't yet traveled back in time to the 19th century to care for her in the San Francisco cavern.

Sounds more like speculation to me as you're dealing with an episode written 2+ years before the events of Time's Arrow and doesn't seem to belong. I'll wait for someone else to comment before I remove it. --Morder 09:06, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

I removed it as speculative. While very possible, without proof it shouldn't be mentioned.--31dot 23:00, 30 August 2008 (UTC)

Don't forget that Guinan's race (El-Aurians) has a very particular relationship to time. Atleast Guinan has indicated that on numerous occations. --The Picard 21:38, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

Removed

• Wolf 359 itself is the real-life third-closest system to Sol after the Alpha Centauri system and Barnard's Star, 7.6 light years away. In the Star Trek universe, it would be a 36 hour trip at warp 9. It's especially an episode of the original Outer Limits, which happened to be an influence on Star Trek. {{incite}}

1) I wasn't aware there was a concrete fomulation for calculating warp 9. 2) not seeing the relevance to this uncited ref. --Alan 13:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Comment about Borg contradictions

The recently added comment about why the Borg do what they do(to add to their perfection or to improve everyone else), while possibly a valid observation, would seem to be more appropriate for the Borg or Borg Collective article rather than this one, in my opinion, as the comment is about the Borg themselves and not just the one episode.--31dot 15:32, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

It's not really a contradiction because every other reference is in the future. The first instance of the borg they weren't interested in biological, the second instance biological and technological. and now...they are interested in perfection. But yes, it belongs on the borg page and not here if it's even valid. — Morder 21:18, 7 September 2008 (UTC)

It's not like the Borg would lie to species they want to assimilate...– Cleanse 00:01, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

Removed to this page- I don't have time to incorporate it somewhere else right now, though it could go on one of the Borg pages.

• Locutus makes a statement to Worf that the Borg wanted to improve the quality of life for all species. However, this is contradicted by statements later made by the former Borg drone Seven of Nine. In the Star Trek: Voyager episode "Scorpion, Part II", she declares that the Borg wanted to assimilate Species 8472 because their biological and technological distinctiveness was more advanced than anything the Borg had ever encountered. Their assimilation, she says, "would have greatly added to our own perfection." This indicates that the Borg wanted the species for what it could do for them, not for what they could do for it. Furthermore, in the episode "Mortal Coil", speaking about another race, the Kazon, she says that the Borg found them unworthy of assimilation because their biological and technological distinctiveness were unremarkable; assimilating them would "detract from perfection". Both these instances indicate that, contrary to what Locutus tells Worf, the Borg were only interested in species that they believed would add to their own power and perfection, and were not interested in species that they believed would not do so. --31dot 00:03, 12 September 2008 (UTC)